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glenn



Joined: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Daejeon, Korea

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:46 pm    Post subject: Advice from experienced. Reply with quote

Which is best do you think? Taking a good paying job with many hours or a less paying job with fewer hours and make up with some private conversational teaching gigs? Yes, I know this is frowned upon and has its consequences but.....

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Bukowski



Joined: 29 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither. Go for the good paying job with less hours!

Chungnam Province public school positions will provide you with both.

AC
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Privates are also annoying for tons of reasons. But, you can make more money (though, like you already know, you better be careful with them). This is more a personal choice. I took a lower paying job than my last one, but with significantly less hours. I prefer free time to money.
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ChuckECheese



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bukowski wrote:
Neither. Go for the good paying job with less hours!

Chungnam Province public school positions will provide you with both.

AC



Why are you advocating that Chungnam Province public school is the best? What's in it for you?

I'm already there but it not as good as you said it is. They only gave me 2 weeks of vacation which sucks.

I guess you're gonna say that if I kissed enough asses, I'll get more vacation days, right? Wrong answer. They have to kiss my ass to get me to finish my contract.

It sucks living in the boonies and running from one school from another. It's not even worth it.
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hubba bubba



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all depends on what "a good paying job" is. how well paying, ya know.

i can't be bothered with privates, so i'd probably take the longer hours one.
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glenn



Joined: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Daejeon, Korea

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:04 am    Post subject: Advice from experienced. Reply with quote

Been offered 2.8 with a school in Daegu, they're calling me on Monday for phone interview but as I mentioned in my original post the hours are M-F 2-10pm and Sat 2-5pm so I was wondering if it would be better to take a job for 2.1-2.2 and supplement with ya know what.

cheers guys

g
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Sine qua non



Joined: 18 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It all depends on what you want out of the situation.

When I started out several years ago, I was focused on making money. I took all the overtime offered and tried to teach every summer/winter camp I could. I don't regret it. Though I was pretty busy, I got what I was after.

Nowadays I want as much free time as I can get while still bringing in decent earnings. Mo' money would be nice, but the free time is generally more valuable to me now for some reasons.

If you're just starting out, I'd say go after the arrangement that is going to be more lucrative. Try it for a year, and if you don't like it you can change (but you'll still have the money you brought in).
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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:24 am    Post subject: Re: Advice from experienced. Reply with quote

glenn wrote:
Been offered 2.8 with a school in Daegu, they're calling me on Monday for phone interview but as I mentioned in my original post the hours are M-F 2-10pm and Sat 2-5pm so I was wondering if it would be better to take a job for 2.1-2.2 and supplement with ya know what.

cheers guys

g


Sounds like CDI. If it is, 2.8 isn't worth the trouble.
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CasperTheFriendlyGhost



Joined: 28 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think having a full weekend off is important.
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glenn



Joined: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Daejeon, Korea

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:18 am    Post subject: Advice from experienced. Reply with quote

Sine qua non wrote:
It all depends on what you want out of the situation.

When I started out several years ago, I was focused on making money. I took all the overtime offered and tried to teach every summer/winter camp I could. I don't regret it. Though I was pretty busy, I got what I was after.

Nowadays I want as much free time as I can get while still bringing in decent earnings. Mo' money would be nice, but the free time is generally more valuable to me now for some reasons.

If you're just starting out, I'd say go after the arrangement that is going to be more lucrative. Try it for a year, and if you don't like it you can change (but you'll still have the money you brought in).


Yes, I'm pretty much focused on money also. I've been teaching in Bangkok which is good, but unless you can get in with a large International School, the money here is poor. Any advice on what schools offer the best deal with money and hours? I don't want to go to Seoul.

cheers

g
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lover.asian



Joined: 30 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChuckECheese wrote:
Bukowski wrote:
Neither. Go for the good paying job with less hours!

Chungnam Province public school positions will provide you with both.

AC



Why are you advocating that Chungnam Province public school is the best? What's in it for you?

I'm already there but it not as good as you said it is. They only gave me 2 weeks of vacation which sucks.

I guess you're gonna say that if I kissed enough asses, I'll get more vacation days, right? Wrong answer. They have to kiss my ass to get me to finish my contract.

It sucks living in the boonies and running from one school from another. It's not even worth it.


This personifies the problem with public school positions.

Going by the messages posted on this form, Austin is treated better and get more perks than others in Chungnam Province. The working conditions and benefits are a crap shoot. Some get laptops, lengthy vacations and good flats, while others get the bare minimum.

If public school administrators wish to fill their foreigner teaching positions in the future, they must be more transparent and consistent in their dealings with foreign teachers.

It really does appear administrators just want "teaching monkeys" with little or no experience/qualifications. Experienced, qualified teachers have many options in Asia and they are unlikely to take a chance on signing a contract with so many unknown variables.
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faster



Joined: 03 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always take time over money. I have other things to do, and I don't have any serious pressing expenses (kids, loans, open heart surgery, etc.).
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