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		| QbertP 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: Its red and spiny and shaped kind of like a heart |   |  
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				| It's seafood.  I think it's called Men ge or something close to that here. 
 Can anyone help me out with an english name or even the correct spelling of the konglish name.  If you've ever been to a fishmarket I'm sure youve seen these.
 
 I'm curious and have not been able to find any info.
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:15 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Meongye 
 멍게 (not totally sure on this spelling, but that's how it's pronounced)
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		| ChuckECheese 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:21 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| It's called Ascidians. 
 The scientific name is Halocynthia roretzi.
 
 And they taste nasty. I almost threw up just trying a little piece of it.
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		| kat2 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| WHy would you ever put that in your mouth. Those things are so gross looking. They were served at the last school meal and I almost gagged just watching the other teachers eat them. They told me that they take the little hard parts, put them in their mouth, and bite them. Then something squishes out and you eat that and spit the hard stuff back out. NASTY!! |  | 
	
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		| mnhnhyouh 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I am wanting to try these and am attempting to convince my director to take us to a seafood resturant next time we are out. 
 Ascidians are not eaten in many places in the world, so this seems like a good place to try them. They are filter feeders. If you look you will see two spouts, one is the in spout and the other the outspout. As the water passes through, edible parts are extracted.
 
 While they look like invertebrates, they are actually chordates. The larvae have a notochord, and very simple eyes. These, however, are both absorbed after settlement onto hard substrate.
 
 In a previous life I have been part of a project that used the larvae to run insitu tests of the anti-fouling properties of extracts from sponges. Lots of fun chasing 2mm larvae around in the water with a syringe
   
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		| kat2 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:20 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | I am wanting to try these and am attempting to convince my director to take us to a seafood resturant next time we are out. 
 Ascidians are not eaten in many places in the world, so this seems like a good place to try them. They are filter feeders. If you look you will see two spouts, one is the in spout and the other the outspout. As the water passes through, edible parts are extracted.
 
 While they look like invertebrates, they are actually chordates. The larvae have a notochord, and very simple eyes. These, however, are both absorbed after settlement onto hard substrate.
 
 In a previous life I have been part of a project that used the larvae to run insitu tests of the anti-fouling properties of extracts from sponges. Lots of fun chasing 2mm larvae around in the water with a syringe
   
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 Wow. I almost threw up just reading that.
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		| Scotticus 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:25 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | mnhnhyouh wrote: |  
	  | They are filter feeders. |  
 Although I'm probably wrong, isn't that just another way to say "bottom feeders?"
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		| TiGrBaLm 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:42 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | mnhnhyouh wrote: |  
	  | They are filter feeders. |  
 Although I'm probably wrong, isn't that just another way to say "bottom feeders?"
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 no, another way of saying they taste like sh**
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		| mnhnhyouh 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | mnhnhyouh wrote: |  
	  | They are filter feeders. |  
 Although I'm probably wrong, isn't that just another way to say "bottom feeders?"
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 Nope. Bottom feeders generally move around on the bottom taking in sediment, extracting the food and shoving the rest back out. Filter feeders, while they often sit on the bottom, are generally sessile (they dont move), feed from the water column.
 
 And it is generally best to eat at the bottom of the food chain, if that is what you were referring to.
 
 Heavy metals and other persistent compounds that bioaccumulate are generally at lower levels at the bottom of the food chain.
 
 Imagine, if you will, a small shell that eats algae. Each one has a milligram of cadmium (very very high levels, unfound in the wild, but used for ease of understanding) in its flesh. If you eat 1000 of them, and absorb all the cadmium, you will now have one gram of cadmium in your body.
 
 But consider the fish that eats these shells. It eats 1000 of them, and you eat two fish. Now from only two fish you have 2 grams of cadmium in your body.
 
 Now consider the bigger fish that eats 1000 little fish. You eat one big fish and now have 1 kg of cadmium.
 
 This is why shark flesh often contains high levels of heavy metals. They eat fish that eat fish that eat fish that eat shells.
 
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		| QbertP 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:17 pm    Post subject: Thanks |   |  
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				| Thanks for the info. 
 I went to a seafood restaurant with my teachers and had some served raw.  No one ate the spiny bits or anything like that.  They were split in half and I presume cleaned and we just ate whatever they left in the middle.  It reminded my of an oyster.
 
 Oh and apparently they are the ancestors of the first vertabrates...nifty
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		| Mashimaro 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| By the way, lobsters are bottom-feeders - they subside on rotting bits of stuff and other animals' exretions. 
 And meongye is delicious
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		| ChuckECheese 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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	  | By the way, lobsters are bottom-feeders - they subside on rotting bits of stuff and other animals' exretions. 
 And meongye is delicious
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		| mindmetoo 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Those things I see floating around in seafood restaurants and I put into the category of sea life I wouldn't 
 1) recognize as food
 
 2) recognize as a form of life
 
 What disgusts me also are those sea slugs they eat. Ever see the ajummas skinning them live in the fish markets?
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		| MANDRL 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 7:30 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| We've seen those spiny heart things, along with those disgusting-looking sea slugs in aquariums outside some restaurants near our school, and we've always wondered what they were..  They look revolting!  Why would anyone ever want to eat those?! Well, to be fair, these delicacies may be delicious to some, but they're definitely not our cups of tea!
 
 
 
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