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Best Artist that transcends his time... (Sculpting/Painting)
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Qinella



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jinju wrote:
See Im not a fan of surrealism at all.


Hold up -- you didn't like that photograph I posted above? Shocked

What about Man Ray? Lee Miller? Maurice Tabard? These folks took some amazing photographs.

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Art should tell a story. Surrealism doesnt.


Art should? Surrealism doesn't?

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Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for painters, it's all about Van Gogh. Oh and Renoir is good too.
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jinju



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:

Hold up -- you didn't like that photograph I posted above? Shocked


Im split on that. I obviously like the photo o technical merits. Its really very good, it grabs me, and so yes, I like it. I dont like it on the fact that it doesnt say much to me. Now, if I go look at photos by Salgado, I get stopped in my tracks because of the emotional impact. If I look at photos by Elliot Erwitt I laugh my ass off for the humor, subtle and sometimes not. Here I was technically marvelled, but thats not enough.


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What about Man Ray? Lee Miller? Maurice Tabard? These folks took some amazing photographs.


My Man Ray opinion went up earlier. I just dont feel him.

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Art should tell a story. Surrealism doesnt.


Art should? Surrealism doesn't?

Sad


Just go to www.magnumphotos.com. Or look at work by Natchwey for example. Salgado. You will see what I mean. Or go to the SAC to see Capa's exhibition.
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Qinella



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(Don't wanna derail the thread too much so this will be my last post about this.)

I see what you mean Jinj (and I looked up those two photographers you mentioned -- both amazing, especially Erwitt) but I think Surrealism also captures humanity, just in a far less obvious way. Ideally, it exposes the subconscious, which of course forms the basis of much of what we know as humanity. I guess we each have ways of viewing things. I tend to find myself being very inclusionary in what types of art I like. Surrealism is my favorite of the major movements, but I like all that I've seen.
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jinju



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:
(Don't wanna derail the thread too much so this will be my last post about this.)

I see what you mean Jinj (and I looked up those two photographers you mentioned -- both amazing, especially Erwitt) but I think Surrealism also captures humanity, just in a far less obvious way. Ideally, it exposes the subconscious, which of course forms the basis of much of what we know as humanity. I guess we each have ways of viewing things. I tend to find myself being very inclusionary in what types of art I like. Surrealism is my favorite of the major movements, but I like all that I've seen.


Thats cool. Did you check out the Man Ray exhibition at the Kim gallery? It was there for the longest time, but I didnt see the posters last time I was there.

Will you go to the SAC to check out the Capa show? I read they have over 100 photographs. Should be really interesting.

P.S. this thread needs derailing, it was looking kind of sad and pathetic.
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Qinella



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NO I didn't go to the Man Ray exhibition godamn I didn't even know about it. Oh well, now at least I can say I have one regret in life. How do you keep up to date on exhibitions in Seoul? Any (reliable) online source?

I'll try to check out the Capa exhibit but I don't know if I'll be back in Korea by then.

I broke my earlier pledge because you were right about this thread needing derailing. I mean, sculpting and painting? F*cking boring. (ㅋㅋㅋㅋ)
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jinju



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ill be going to the Capa show in may sometimes, you can come with me if you can keep your urge to punch me in the face in check LOL
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jinju



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Q,

one guy you might really like is Trent Parke
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joel Peter Witkin
Cindy Sherman
Andy Warhol
Robert Rauschenberg
Mark Rothko
Miro
Picasso (There's a reason why he's hyped. He dominates the 20th century.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as overall quality, Picasso is the man.

My personal fav is Van Gogh, followed by Dali. I'm also a big fan of the Mexican muralists - Orozco, Rivera, and Sequeiros - but they aren't as influential as the others.

I'm also a big fan of Chicago artist Ed Paschke. I should also add James Mespl�, since I bought one of his paintings a few years ago.
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nautilus



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

huffdaddy wrote:
As far as overall quality, Picasso is the man.


What do you know about this painting then?

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ChopChaeJoe



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul Klee
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nautilus wrote:
huffdaddy wrote:
As far as overall quality, Picasso is the man.


What do you know about this painting then?


Nothing really. I haven't really studied Picasso's stuff at all. I've been to the Picasso Museums in Nice and Paris, and saw a good exhibit of lithographs in Stuttgart. And the Art Institute of Chicago has this painting,



which was painted over another painting. It's hard to see in this picture, but you can see the eyes near the top, directly above his ear and his neck where it meets his shirt strap.
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Bondrock



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

art has almost become inaccessible to the common man.. art pushes the boundaries of previous art and as such it is often difficult to understand unless one has the benefit of a course in art history or if one studies art privately and incessantly....

that saddens me a little because art should be for the betterment of humans, but post-post modernism and almost everything since modernism (depends on the category; painting, poetry, stories, music) has become difficult for the "average joe" to access (meaning and relevence)...
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