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hubba bubba
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 Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:42 am Post subject: Re: Bruce Lee - Jackie Chan - Jet Li |
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| SuperFly wrote: |
Who's the best? It's just an opinion, you don't have to back it up with proof for Gods sake.
Edit: Just watched Fists of Fury, Chinese Connection, Game of Death and Return of the Dragon. Amazing. |
Straight up, Bruce Lee is the best. He is mostly responsible for introducing matrial arts to the west through his movies from Hong Kong in the 60's. Also, he was the first person to stray away from the peaceful "Shaolin Warrior" stereotype, and represent martial arts as a hard core ass kicking skill. Before Bruce Lee, Martail Arts had this stigma of being only for righteous self defense in the west. Bruce Lee fuc'ked people up. Take what you want from that. Maybe it's not a "good thing". But you have to consider that fighting skills in The East were probably used more offensively than defensively throughout histroy.
He broke down so many barriers that he was the first asian on western TV. He was something like "The Brown Hornet" on the old school Batman shows. He had to wear a mask cuz he looked to Asian tho. He started a Martial Art that we are still talkng about today.
I love me some Jackie Chan, but he was Lee's understudy. Jackie is full on legit, but I don't have a Jackie Chan tee-shirt. I do have a Bruce Lee one. Jackie has done well. I love his movies. He is a comedic performer, and there's nothing wrong with that. He brought Martial Arts films to a different genre, with highy choreographed, yet definately risky scenes. Gotta love him for what he's done, with all the stunts he does himself. He ain't no Bruce Lee tho.
Jet Lee is a bit of a knock off. No doubt he has great skill, but what is his legend? Gangster Kung Fu? That hasn't quite taken of yet. It should tho. Maybe we will see it someday. He's still young.
Having said that...
Who Is Tha Master????
Sho' Nuff.
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:42 am Post subject: hmm |
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hmm...the brown hornet?...thanks for the chuckle...  |
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SuperFly
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| Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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I thought it was the Green Hornet...  |
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Rteacher
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Rigamarole
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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As far as Aikido, has anyone on here gone to that school around ?? (Sinchon)? Is it worth it?
I'm now interested in tai chi because of the description given. Are there any tai chi schools around central Seoul, ?? (Jongno) area? |
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ajgeddes
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Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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tareze
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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Chuck Norris gives Bruce Lee two thumbs up 
I agree with Tony Jaa! He's dreamy.
But I do love B Lee~ |
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mikowee
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Jackie Chan is the best entertainer, but Bruce Lee would f*ck up anyone in a real fight. I just wish he was around long enough to hand Steven Seagal his @ss. |
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i_teach_esl
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| ajgeddes wrote: |
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cangel
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:54 am Post subject: |
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| I think they are all entertaining, particularly Bruce Lee. However, and please forgive my ignorance, I think Walker Texas Ranger (Chuck Norris) would have walked all over them... Chuck is a legit multi world champ not some two bit regional champ or someone who never competed whatsoever. Additionally, although I admire anyone who improves their body and mind through whatever discipline, why is it that the martial artists are always (ok, usually) the first people to get their cans kicked in Pride and UFC? As a form of fighting, unless you are fighting someone who is using the same discipline, it's pretty useless. |
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butlerian
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:19 am Post subject: |
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| Bruce Lee is fantastic, but Jet Li is my current No1. The "Once Upon A Time in China" series is fanstastic. Some classic fight sequences, including one using ladders which is amazing. |
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itaewonguy
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| Greekfreak wrote: |
Judo Gene Lebell. Sparred with Bruce and famously choked out a very full-of-himself Steven Seagal some time ago. Here's the link:
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wouldnt call they sparring.. more like seagal said ok try and choke me out with a sleeper hold.. so Lebell put a sleeper on him and choked him out!!
fact is if it was a one to one FIGHT.. seagal would have broken him in half!
jet lee is from Shoalin temple! he has won real kumates and is a deadly weapon! but at the same time shaolin , like the circus where jackie chan comes from, are all about exhibition.. still wouldnt want to mess with either one of them..
BRUCE on the otherhand mostly self taught! and created his own style!
the style of no style!
jeetkundo
have never really seen videos of JET LEE really fighting..
flipping and flying around, It seems TONY JAA is better..
actual deadly fighting hard to say..
jackie third...
but jet and bruce.. to hard to say.. |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:42 am Post subject: |
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| Just ate at Jackie Chan's Chinese restaurant in COEX tonight. Pretty good and thought I'd share the word about it. |
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butlerian
Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| matthews_world wrote: |
| Just ate at Jackie Chan's Chinese restaurant in COEX tonight. Pretty good and thought I'd share the word about it. |
Selling real Chinese food made by Chinese chefs, or is just another fusion restaurant? |
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Allen
Joined: 19 Feb 2007
Location: Gunpo
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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Please tell me you are joking about jet Li being from Shaolin.
Jet Li was a WuShu player and champion in his younger days. He trained under Wu Bin (sp?) in Beijing and has probably never fought a real fight in his life.
Jackie is pretty much the same but with a tougher childhood in the declining opera world.
Bruce Lee is not "mostly" self taught. he studied Tai Chi from his father, Wing Chun and was a Queensbry rules boxer in HK. When he moved to the US he was able to train with other artists and learn from them and that allowed him to develop his PHILOSPHY of Jeet Kune Do.
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| Greekfreak wrote: |
jet lee is from Shoalin temple! he has won real kumates and is a deadly weapon! but at the same time shaolin , like the circus where jackie chan comes from, are all about exhibition.. still wouldnt want to mess with either one of them..
BRUCE on the otherhand mostly self taught! and created his own style!
the style of no style!
jeetkundo
have never really seen videos of JET LEE really fighting..
flipping and flying around, It seems TONY JAA is better..
actual deadly fighting hard to say..
jackie third...
but jet and bruce.. to hard to say.. |
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