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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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 Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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How many times do you see violence depicted against women in movies from good old Hollywood? "But it's a movie" people cry. Yeah well it's a TV ad.
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I think you're missing the point of what a TV ad is supposed to do. It's supposed to entice the viewer by building positive associations around the product. People here are dismayed because the vehicle is being "sold" by using an image that very few people would want to associate with at all.
In a movie, a wife-beating scene would probably provoke feelings of disgust or anger, and wouldn't induce positive feelings toward the character. |
No, no Kermo, I think you're missing the point. TUM is programmed to try to draw parallels to everything to make sure the "West" is just as bad or worse that Korea in every aspect. He's unable to admit otherwise, he isn't programmed that way. Look for a positive post from him. |
No, no Kermo, I think you're missing the point. ajgeddes is programmed to stalk me and try to belittle my points because he carrys grudges from a few threads long ago where I had to put him in his place. He's unable to do otherwise, he just isn't programmed that way. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| kermo wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
How many times do you see violence depicted against women in movies from good old Hollywood? "But it's a movie" people cry. Yeah well it's a TV ad.
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I think you're missing the point of what a TV ad is supposed to do. It's supposed to entice the viewer by building positive associations around the product. People here are dismayed because the vehicle is being "sold" by using an image that very few people would want to associate with at all.
In a movie, a wife-beating scene would probably provoke feelings of disgust or anger, and wouldn't induce positive feelings toward the character. |
Back on topic. I understand what you are saying...but I was under the impression that people were upset at the ad, because a woman was being beaten, no? All I am saying is that if we are going to express shock and horror at that, then shouldn't that apply to other ads/movies? And more importantly, shouldn't we save our shock and horror for REAL LIFE SITUATIONS?
I just think that a TV ad isn't really worth getting bent out of shape about when there are a lot more worthwhile things that we could devote our time and energy to.
But then again it really wasn't about a TV ad was it? A previous poster has already proved THAT. |
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babtangee
Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:11 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| ...but I was under the impression that people were upset at the ad, because a woman was being beaten, no? |
You were under the wrong impression. People are upset because the ad suggests beating your girl is acceptable or even appropriate behaviour. That later we'll all be smiling again in our Tucson, after we've slapped some sense into our woman.
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But then again it really wasn't about a TV ad was it? A previous poster has already proved THAT. |
You're right, it was about the culture that accepts the ad's implied message.
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:35 am Post subject: |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:57 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| kermo wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
How many times do you see violence depicted against women in movies from good old Hollywood? "But it's a movie" people cry. Yeah well it's a TV ad.
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I think you're missing the point of what a TV ad is supposed to do. It's supposed to entice the viewer by building positive associations around the product. People here are dismayed because the vehicle is being "sold" by using an image that very few people would want to associate with at all.
In a movie, a wife-beating scene would probably provoke feelings of disgust or anger, and wouldn't induce positive feelings toward the character. |
In Western movies (atleast nowadays), slapping a woman is only done by EVIL/BAD people. In this commercial, it is done by a GOOD person and nothing comes of it. The difference is really quite easy to see.
Back on topic. I understand what you are saying...but I was under the impression that people were upset at the ad, because a woman was being beaten, no? All I am saying is that if we are going to express shock and horror at that, then shouldn't that apply to other ads/movies? And more importantly, shouldn't we save our shock and horror for REAL LIFE SITUATIONS?
I just think that a TV ad isn't really worth getting bent out of shape about when there are a lot more worthwhile things that we could devote our time and energy to.
But then again it really wasn't about a TV ad was it? A previous poster has already proved THAT. |
The difference between an actor in Western media doing it as a BAD guy and this situation is actually pretty obvious.
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:16 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| ajgeddes wrote: |
| kermo wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
How many times do you see violence depicted against women in movies from good old Hollywood? "But it's a movie" people cry. Yeah well it's a TV ad.
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I think you're missing the point of what a TV ad is supposed to do. It's supposed to entice the viewer by building positive associations around the product. People here are dismayed because the vehicle is being "sold" by using an image that very few people would want to associate with at all.
In a movie, a wife-beating scene would probably provoke feelings of disgust or anger, and wouldn't induce positive feelings toward the character. |
No, no Kermo, I think you're missing the point. TUM is programmed to try to draw parallels to everything to make sure the "West" is just as bad or worse that Korea in every aspect. He's unable to admit otherwise, he isn't programmed that way. Look for a positive post from him. |
No, no Kermo, I think you're missing the point. ajgeddes is programmed to stalk me and try to belittle my points because he carrys grudges from a few threads long ago where I had to put him in his place. He's unable to do otherwise, he just isn't programmed that way. |
Wow, original. I stalk you, good one. Please show me where you put me in my place? Is this part of your ridiculous dreamworld? Why don't you try adding something positive to a thread for once? You must be the most miserable person. |
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oneofthesarahs
Joined: 05 Nov 2006
Location: Sacheon City
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| Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:38 am Post subject: |
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The first time I saw the commercial I thought, "Whoa...is that what I thought? Did she just get slapped??"
The second time I saw the commercial I thought, "Yep, she's getting slapped."
The third, fourth, fifth and five millionth time I saw the commercial I thought, "OH GOD WHERE IS THE MUTE BUTTON NOT AGAAAAAAAAIN."
Being the feminist I am, I would normally find this sort of thing quite offensive, but the rest of the commercial is so nauseating that that it all blends together in a slurry of obnoxiousness. |
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