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Solar tech breakthrough in New Zealand

 
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gang ah jee



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:49 pm    Post subject: Solar tech breakthrough in New Zealand Reply with quote

Solar power breakthrough at Massey
By MERVYN DYKES - Manawatu Standard | Thursday, 5 April 2007

New solar cells developed by Massey University don't need direct sunlight to operate and use a patented range of dyes that can be impregnated in roofs, window glass and eventually even clothing to produce power.

This means teenagers could one day be wearing jackets that will recharge their equivalents of cellphones, iPods and other battery- driven devices.

The breakthrough is a development of the university's Nanomaterials Research Centre and has attracted world-wide interest already - particularly from Australia and Japan.

Researchers at the centre have developed a range of synthetic dyes from simple organic compounds closely related to those found in nature, where light-harvesting pigments are used by plants for photosynthesis.

"This is a proof-of-concept cell," said researcher Wayne Campbell, pointing to a desktop demonstration model.

"Within two to three years we will have developed a prototype for real applications. "The technology could be sold off already, but it would be a shame to get rid of it now."

Article continues here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/thepress/4017784a11.html

Maybe not much potential for discussion here (although I'm sure we could get a fight started if we tried), but apparently this technique is a whole lot cheaper and requires a lot less infrastructure than silicon-based solar technology. Here's hoping it works out.

(I should add that I've always thought of Massey University doing nothing but breeding better sheep. Boy, is my face red now.)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Solar tech breakthrough in New Zealand Reply with quote

gang ah jee wrote:

(I should add that I've always thought of Massey University doing nothing but breeding better sheep. Boy, is my face red now.)


That would be like the University of Guelph in Canada.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the world needs better sheep... don't knock sheep.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool!

ONE WORD:

Matrix-i-fication
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gang ah jee



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

igotthisguitar wrote:
Cool!

ONE WORD:

Matrix-i-fication

Sorry, but what's the Matrix connection? I don't remember anyone in those films having electricity-generating clothes (of course, I had my eyes shut and my hands over my ears for most of Reloaded and Revolutions).

Oh, and here's the original Massey press release: http://masseynews.massey.ac.nz/2007/Press_Releases/04-04-07.html

The best part is that it includes the researchers' phone numbers, so if you'd like any more information about the new cells, give them a buzz! Professor Ashton Partridge 06 356 9099 ext 5918; Dr Wayne Campbell: 06 356 9099 ext 3525. (NZ area code is ++64, we're all on holiday until next Wednesday.)


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd answer your question, as i like to be a pretty direct "no-bullshit" kinda dude,
but these new supercomputer walls are alive ... & effectively "monitoring" the situation.

What's the frequency Kenneth? Wink
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gang ah jee



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

igotthisguitar wrote:
I'd answer your question, as i like to be a pretty direct "no-*beep*" kinda dude,
but these new supercomputer walls are alive ... & effectively "monitoring" the situation.

What's the frequency Kenneth? Wink

I'm sorry, IGTG, but you're actually making less sense than either of the Matrix sequels.
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Manner of Speaking



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually conventional solar panels can operate at up to 75% efficiency on cloudy days - direct sunlight isn't a prerequisite - but it's an interesting article nontheless.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you power whole cities with it?
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gang ah jee



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manner of Speaking wrote:
Actually conventional solar panels can operate at up to 75% efficiency on cloudy days - direct sunlight isn't a prerequisite - but it's an interesting article nontheless.

Right. I think that these ones get higher efficiency than that under diffuse light though:

"The refining of pure silicon, although a very abundant mineral, is energy-hungry and very expensive. And whereas silicon cells need direct sunlight to operate efficiently, these cells will work efficiently in low diffuse light conditions."

Junior wrote:
Could you power whole cities with it?

I don't know. What do you think?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gang ah jee wrote:
The refining of pure silicon, although a very abundant mineral, is energy-hungry and very expensive.

THAT I didn't know about. Hmmm...
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gang ah jee



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently the black dots represent the area of (silicon) solar cells you'd need to power the world at its present energy usage:



http://www.ez2c.de/ml/solar_land_area/

"Solar power systems installed in the areas defined by the dark disks could provide a little more than the world's current total primary energy demand (assuming a conversion efficiency of 8%). That is, all energy currently consumed, including heat, electricity, fossil fuels, etc., would be produced in the form of electricity by solar cells. The colors in the map show the local solar irradiance averaged over three years from 1991 to 1993 (24 hours a day) taking into account the cloud coverage available from weather satellites."
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of those spots look pretty big...the one in the Sahara desert looks bigger than Ireland...but I think there are some countries that have the feasibility to go "totally solar". In Canada, if per capita electricity efficiency was as high as it is in Japan, we could close all of our fossil fuel stations, all of our nuclear power stations...and provide for all of our electricity needs just on our EXISTING hydroelectric dams.
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gang ah jee



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manner of Speaking wrote:
Some of those spots look pretty big...the one in the Sahara desert looks bigger than Ireland...but I think there are some countries that have the feasibility to go "totally solar". In Canada, if per capita electricity efficiency was as high as it is in Japan, we could close all of our fossil fuel stations, all of our nuclear power stations...and provide for all of our electricity needs just on our EXISTING hydroelectric dams.

Yes, if you check the website it has the total surface areas of each spot - in total it comes to somewhere in the range of a million square kilometres. Of course, the site also acknowledges that such and arrangement would be politically and technically impossible.

But yeah - efficiency plus solar and wind has a lot of potential to solve a large part of the problem.

Oh, and has anyone seen these 'air cars'? Pretty amazing technology, though people who like muscly vehicles will probably hate them.

http://www.theaircar.com/
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