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freethought · Joined: 13 Mar 2005

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/05/protected.terrorists/index.html

All those republicans going on about Pelosi better shut up or they'll look like total idiots after this revelation...

igotthisguitar · Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:29 am Post subject:

"You are either with us ... OR ... with the terrorists ... "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

Suppressed premise = BUSH cabal does "not" conduct or promote terrorism Shocked

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

We are the ultimate good guys. A truly noble lot.

Those "others" are bad and must be destroyed.

Ok? Evil or Very Mad

How's THIS for irony?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=prescott+bush+hitler+

stevemcgarrett · Joined: 24 Mar 2006

freebutnotinsightfulthought:

igotthisguitar · Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:45 am Post subject:

Hater Depot · Joined: 29 Mar 2005

Uh... rule number one in realpolitik is that you have no friends.

igotthisguitar · Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 2:47 am Post subject:

Milwaukiedave · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong

It's too bad people think so narrowly that it comes down to other's calling people terrorists just because they hold a different opinion. You would think 5 1/2 years later we had learned our lesson. I guess not.

Kuros · Joined: 27 Apr 2004

Freethought, thanks for pointing this out.

This co-operation is deeply problematic. I think any intelligence coming out of the MEK has to be tainted. I mean haven't we learned from our experiences with Chalabi?

freethought · Joined: 13 Mar 2005

Kuros · Joined: 27 Apr 2004

igotthisguitar · Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:51 am Post subject:

Israelis Training Death Squads In Colombia
Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:59:15

The Interpol issued an arrest warrant for three Israelis who are accused of training Colombian private armies, right-wing death squads and drug cartels, Israeli Ynetnews reported.

The Ynetnews added that the three Israelis, Yair Klein, Melnik Ferri and Abraham Tzedaka are wanted for charges of criminal conspiracy, and instruction in terrorism. If convicted, they could face 11 years in prison.

The statements were made by a spokesperson of the Colombian Domestic Intelligence, talking on condition of anonymity.

Also, the three Israelis are accused of helping set up training camps in order to train private armies working for drug lords Pablo Escobar and Gonzalo Rodriguez Gacha. The camps are meant to train the mercenaries about explosives, car bombs and high-profile killings, the Ynetnews added.

One of the accused Israelis, Klein, appeared in a video filmed in 1998. The video is used to train far-right squads.

The Ynetnews also said that Klein spent 16 months in a prison in Sierra Leon for his role in what is known as �gun-for-blood� diamonds deal.

Klein was interviewed in Israel by the Carocal TV in March, and denied that he ever worked with the cocaine cartels, but said that he trained far-right death squads on methods to �eliminate leftists insurgency�, the Ynetnews said Idea

According to Klein, he was originally hired �with the blessing of the Colombian Defense Ministry�. His job was to organize the security of the banana industry in Uraba region.

Many of the mercenaries he trained carried some of the most brutal massacres in Columbia.

Bur Klein argues that these squads are not �trained to kill� and that they are trained to defend themselves.

Also, Escobar is behind bringing down airplanes, detonating police headquarters and offered his army of assassins a set rate for the killing of policemen, the Ynetnews said.

In 1993, Escobar was shot down by the police in Madelin, his hometown, while Gacha was killed by the police in 1989.

SO/IS

stevemcgarrett · Joined: 24 Mar 2006

freethought:

Rule No. 2: Realpolitik is an expedient.

Rule No. 3: It can have unintended consequences in the long run.

Rule No. 4: Weigh the importance of rule no 2 against rule no. 3.

Rule No. 5: As long as there are dictatorships in the world who follow their own rules, realpolitik will exist.

freethought · Joined: 13 Mar 2005

The problem is, Steve, that many people did see these unintended consequences that you so easily dismiss.

As for your whole realpolitik argument, that's incredibly cheap. If that's the way you explain this, then I suggest you refrain from criticizing Pulosi, because what's she's doing is realpolitik of a different sort and it carries with it fewer consequences than most of the Bush admin stuff.

Realpolitik is the answer given when you know your wrong and have no real justification for your actions.--- don't remember who said it, or if I got the quote exactly right, but it makes the point.

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee · Joined: 25 May 2003

igotthisguitar · Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:51 am Post subject:

Blair "Rejects" 7/7 Inquiry Calls
Under surveillance: Picture from 2004, more than a year before London bombings.

Tony Blair has again rejected calls for a fresh inquiry into the 7/7 attacks, saying it would undermine the security services.

The prime minister repeatedly dismissed Tory leader David Cameron's demands for a "proper independent inquiry".

He also told MPs at Commons question time that it would divert resources from the fight against terrorism.

Survivors of the 2005 attack renewed their calls for an inquiry on Monday after the fertiliser bomb plot trial.

It emerged at the end of the year-long court case that MI5 had watched and followed two of the 7 July bombers, Mohammad Sidique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer, a year before the attacks as part of their surveillance of the fertiliser bomb plotters.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6615387.stm