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mytime
Joined: 15 Oct 2006
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 Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: possible for hagwon not to find teacher?? |
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Hi
I live in a small town and I am leaving in a few months because my contract is up and I wanna move on
But I want to make sure my boss gets a teacher before I leave.
He is worried because he feels he won't find a replacement..
How common is this these days that a hagwon in a small town can't get a teacher?
I saw somewhere that there are more positions now than teachers, so I am worried that I will leave them without a replacement
A native speaker is kinda important to my hagwon because it's the only thing that makes us competitive
When is the best time of year to find a teacher? |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: possible for hagwon not to find teacher?? |
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| mytime wrote: |
| He is worried because he feels he won't find a replacement.. |
How much money is he offering? If you're in a small town, he'll probably have to sweeten the pot. 2 million isn't really going to cut it these days. Either that, or offer something special like a 4-day workweek. |
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ChuckECheese
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Mostly better pay, more vacation time will get FT's attention. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: possible for hagwon not to find teacher?? |
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| mytime wrote: |
Hi
I live in a small town and I am leaving in a few months because my contract is up and I wanna move on
But I want to make sure my boss gets a teacher before I leave.
He is worried because he feels he won't find a replacement..
How common is this these days that a hagwon in a small town can't get a teacher?
I saw somewhere that there are more positions now than teachers, so I am worried that I will leave them without a replacement
A native speaker is kinda important to my hagwon because it's the only thing that makes us competitive
When is the best time of year to find a teacher? |
The best way to ensure they get a replacement teacher -
MATCH or improve on a government contract (which now offer):
14-21 WORKING days vacation
NHIC medical (as required by law)
National Pension (as required by law)
national holidays off with pay (credit for classes you would have worked)
salary of 2.0-2.4 million won
decent housing (skip the rat traps).
severance
return airfare
AND home trip for re-up (with airfare included).
If your boss is too small to play the game, it may be time to get out of the league. |
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mytime
Joined: 15 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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yeah thats another problem (apart from the small town), the hagwons in small towns can't charge as much as in cities for student fees.
So, even though we have more than a hundred students(which is good for this town), my boss clears less than me a month because of overheads
So, yeah he cant really sweeten the deal
Maybe we have a problem |
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huck
Joined: 19 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Your boss is making less than 2 million won/month with over a hundred students? If a hundred students is really good for your area, how many students did he plan on having if he wanted to actually make some money?
Are you sure he's making so little? I probably wouldn't tell my employees how much I was making... |
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jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| huck wrote: |
Your boss is making less than 2 million won/month with over a hundred students? If a hundred students is really good for your area, how many students did he plan on having if he wanted to actually make some money?
Are you sure he's making so little? I probably wouldn't tell my employees how much I was making... |
Yeah, he might have to live with scavenging the town's foreigners and simply asking if they want to work PT. If you want to help him, ask him if he's willing to advertise for PT, then try to find the other foreigners in your area...if there are any.
It does happen though; there's thousands of vacancies right now. I just left a job where, if I hadn't done the footwork on finding a foreigner, they probably wouldn't have. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| there's thousands of vacancies right now. |
that is no exaggeration
my contract ends this month and I've never seen so many job openings before, and I thought last spring was some sort of record
i've come across well over a thousand being advertised |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I'll echo what was said before. If the boss can't offer a significant amount of cash there's nothing enticing a teacher to go there over Seoul. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Tell him to buy an ad that says '2.4 million / month; 20 working days paid vacation plus government holidays'.
He'll find someone. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Well I posted a thread in the job discussion forum a few days ago. My school is a public school in Incheon and they are going to have a difficult time replacing me as well. I think right now there's a high demand for foreign teachers (someone correct me if I'm wrong please), which as someone else pointed out means you have to up the ante if you want a highly qualified teacher. For a hagwon in the sticks that even more difficult. |
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mytime
Joined: 15 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| huck wrote: |
Your boss is making less than 2 million won/month with over a hundred students? If a hundred students is really good for your area, how many students did he plan on having if he wanted to actually make some money?
Are you sure he's making so little? I probably wouldn't tell my employees how much I was making... |
Yeah they only ask 10 man won a student in my town (its very rural) and with about 120 students..
Thats 12 million minus 5 million for salaries minus other expenses totalling around 2 million
That leaves him with 5 million....he has a loan at the bank (for the hagwon) he has to pay back...minus that and he comes out under 2 million for himself
So if he wants to pay his FT more he has to take a pay cut^^ |
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rothkowitz
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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That's not 3 million he's losing.
If he can't sweeten the deal a little then that's his own shortsightedness. |
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mytime
Joined: 15 Oct 2006
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Yeah he will be able to sell the hagwon one day but thats not his plan for the immediate future
Anyway, whats the reason for the huge gap between supply and demand in the ESL industry in Korea now?
Is it because of all the public schools looking for native teachers?
Is the qualification (any BA degree) the same for public school and hagwon as far as foreign teachers are concerned? |
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rothkowitz
Joined: 27 Apr 2006
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Conditions in public schools are a little better in terms of holidays and predictability,not necessarily moneywise.
Everything else is everything else.
There's been a government initiative to get foreigners in schools,further to that,it's a big country-population wise-and not enough people want to come here.
Quals-a degree in anything. |
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