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Renewing and Expectations

 
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jurassic82



Joined: 21 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 5:58 am    Post subject: Renewing and Expectations Reply with quote

I'm in the need for some advice. I'm at the end of my contract (3 months left) and I'm debating resigning for a second year. I work at a small Hogwan and believe it or not there are a lot of things about working at a Hagwon that I like for example small class sizes and good working hours. I usually never start before 3pm. I have some complaints like lack of good vacation time for the exception of Chooseok where I have the whole 10 days off. I have really grown to like a lot of the students and I also really like the area that I work and live in (Bucheon). Also, I would like to stay at my school because I like my coworkers and even though I'm not the biggest fan of my bosses they have been pretty nice like buying us dinner everyday and taking us out for dinner and drinks at the end of the term. I haven't had to deal with any BS like getting paid late which I have learned to know is common at other schools. I want to talk to my boss soon about this for a couple of reasons and this is where I could use some advice about negotiating and being fair.

My contract ends at the end of July. I usually have about four days off before the next term. The problem lays in the fact that I want to go home for a week to visit my parents. In my contract I have the plane ticket home. When it comes for the plane back to Korea would it be unreasonable to ask for them to pay for it. Also do you think it would be unreasonable to ask my boss for two weeks off instead of one. The reason I ask because here is the situation. My school has only one other foriegn teacher and we usually only have four days off between terms and we would be going into the summer intensive which is a really busy period for us. If I couldn't take this amount of time off how do you think I could manage to negotiate to take it off in the future. I feel for the most part I'm being pretty reasonable. I'm not asking for much in the way of a raise. I would be going from 2.1 million to 2.2 million. Also I figured It would be to the schools advantage to have me stay considering most of the kids like me and I have been there longer than the majority of the teachers. Anyways I would appreciate everyones help in this matter as I am very inexperienced in this sort of thing. Cool
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zappadelta



Joined: 31 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, it never hurts to ask for anything. Personally, I don't think you are asking for too much. It seems like you like your position, so if they agree to what you want, I would stay with them. If they don't, I would consider something else. I think even if they do pay for your flight back here, they will still save time and effort in the long run. Let them know they are taking the chance of getting someone new who is not as good as you.
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huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:40 am    Post subject: Re: Renewing and Expectations Reply with quote

jurassic82 wrote:
When it comes for the plane back to Korea would it be unreasonable to ask for them to pay for it. Also do you think it would be unreasonable to ask my boss for two weeks off instead of one.
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I'm not asking for much in the way of a raise. I would be going from 2.1 million to 2.2 million.


All three are definitely reasonable. You should get the flight back to Korea plus the flight back home at the end of your second year. Two weeks off is well within reason. Many people take a month off between contracts. 100,000/month raise is pretty standard.

I just got all three (actually 3 weeks off and a raise from 2 to 2.1) quite easily. Plus my first year's severance paid before I leave for summer vacation.

It's a seller's market. If they want to bicker, tell them you'll complete your contract and say adios. There are a lot more job than teachers right now.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:57 am    Post subject: Re: Renewing and Expectations Reply with quote

huffdaddy wrote:
jurassic82 wrote:
When it comes for the plane back to Korea would it be unreasonable to ask for them to pay for it. Also do you think it would be unreasonable to ask my boss for two weeks off instead of one.
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I'm not asking for much in the way of a raise. I would be going from 2.1 million to 2.2 million.


All three are definitely reasonable. You should get the flight back to Korea plus the flight back home at the end of your second year. Two weeks off is well within reason. Many people take a month off between contracts. 100,000/month raise is pretty standard.

I just got all three (actually 3 weeks off and a raise from 2 to 2.1) quite easily. Plus my first year's severance paid before I leave for summer vacation.

It's a seller's market. If they want to bicker, tell them you'll complete your contract and say adios. There are a lot more job than teachers right now.


What Huffdaddy said.

Make your request. It is reasonable.

If they say, "no" then you say, "thanks and I will complete my contract and move on. Please have my ticket, severance and final pay ready for my last day."

Then let them know that you will be coming back to Korea 2 weeks later and ask if they know any schools who will be looking for a new teacher at that time?

You are experienced and you would like, "......, ....., ..... and ....."

If they let you go, then let me know... our school district will be looking for about 15 new teachers for August start dates and you will be starting at level 2 (which includes everything you are asking for and more).
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You hold the cards. Tell them want you want.
BTW- ask for more money than that- SETTLE for your original number, if necessary. You never know how much more you might get, since the cost of finding a new teacher (IF they can find one) is so much. Example-Instead of 100,000, ask for 300,000. See what happens. You have NOTHING to lose.
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