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stevemcgarrett
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wannago:
Who knows? EFLTrainer is probably a sock for MannerofSpeaking. Even freethought gets it right once in a while but not this clown. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:09 am Post subject: |
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En passant, Pelosi has strong ties to Israel and grew up in a neighborhood that was heavily Jewish. |
Oh boy! I grew up in an area that was "heavily Hispanic." Does that mean I can go to Mexico and pretend that I'm in charge of diplomacy with them? |
Huh? This is politics. Pelosi is in touch with AIPAC and so is Henry Waxman? I suppose you don't know how close Tom Lantos is to Israel and Steve says I'm obtuse.
Pelosi doesn't have to have a new position from Israel. Israel can repeat its position and Pelosi could re-iterate it. What is so hard about that to understand. This is normal in the Middle East. It depends on moods to some extent, something some cannot grasp, because they think the politics and the Middle East is some step by step experiment with statements that are identical from one period to another having the same effect. Things change on the ground. Olmert has to make his statements, Pelosi has to make hers. Again, if there was no blessing from Israel, two pro-Israeli Jews - Tom Lantos and Henry Waxman would not have been there.
I find it hard to believe that Pelosi who has had an intimate relationship with Jews including a political one which is very different from saying "Hey, I grew up in the ghetto, and I know black people". She has a political connection to Israel. Believe me, if Israel was upset Waxman and Lantos would not have gone. They are not upset in Israel. Stop assuming things.
Syria has kept saying for months they want to talk with Israel. Israel has responded by saying "We won't take you seriously unless you show us you are serious by not backing our enemies". Israel sent a message in its way, but you are just focused on saying liberal this and liberal that, because you are looking at this and interpreting words in a literal sense in the same way as religious fundamentalists interpret scripture. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:40 am Post subject: |
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wannago:
Who knows? EFLTrainer is probably a sock for MannerofSpeaking. Even freethought gets it right once in a while but not this clown. |
Pelosi is a traitor? *I've*got it wrong? You're an idiot. Actually, you're a joke. Nothing but a troll. If you and wannago believe half the filth you spew, you've got serious mental or emotional defects. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:32 am Post subject: |
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California is a trend-setter for other clueless liberals who reside elsewhere. No one in the upper Midwest where I come from takes them seriously. |
oh. and here i was thinking Reagan, former gov of CA, won votes in the Midwest in 2 Presidental elections. Maybe I was wrong?
And what state voted for Mondale in 1984? An upper midwestern state (mn) so looks like at least one part of the states can be even more liberally "out of touch" than CA sometimes  .
Prop 13 has served as a tax-cutting model elsewhere.
The computer you're reading this on? Compliments of those trend setters of CA.
Elimination of affirmative action? (wow, SO liberal there). CA was one of the first states to say adios to it (1996). |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| oh. and here i was thinking Reagan, former gov of CA, won votes in the Midwest in 2 Presidental elections. Maybe I was wrong? |
Reagan was born and raised in the Midwest and always identified with it. Nice try.
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| Elimination of affirmative action? (wow, SO liberal there). CA was one of the first states to say adios to it |
Actually, Texas and Michigan preceded California. Ouch again.
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| The computer you're reading this on? Compliments of those trend setters of CA. |
I was referring to social trends, not technological. Sorry to give you such angst.
Sure you're not the older brother of EFLTrainer? Sure sound like it. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 7:20 am Post subject: |
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| Elimination of affirmative action? (wow, SO liberal there). CA was one of the first states to say adios to it |
Actually, Texas and Michigan preceded California. Ouch again. |
"One of" does not mean "the", you dumbass.
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| Sure you're not the older brother of EFLTrainer? Sure sound like it. |
I train teachers. You couldn't train turnips to lie still. You're a walking brain fart. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| Elimination of affirmative action? (wow, SO liberal there). CA was one of the first states to say adios to it |
Actually, Texas and Michigan preceded California. Ouch again. |
"One of" does not mean "the", you dumbass.
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And steve, TX had to get rid of Affirmative action in the same year as CA chose to do so. Here in CA, us voters decided to get rid of it. In TX, it was the courts.
CS Monitor Article
I don't believe Michigan eliminated it. If it did, why did a case between a student and the U of M law school go all the way to the supreme court? SC also upheld the law and AA is still in place at U of Michigan. Nice try though.
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| Reagan was born and raised in the Midwest and always identified with it. Nice try. |
Who cares? He was a movie actor who spent nearly all his adult life here in CA. He was elected in CA, not the Midwest. This is where his political career was born.
And I notice you ignored prop 13, a very anti-liberal thing.
Just in case you don't know what prop 13 is:
Wikipedia summary |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
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| Elimination of affirmative action? (wow, SO liberal there). CA was one of the first states to say adios to it |
Actually, Texas and Michigan preceded California. Ouch again. |
"One of" does not mean "the", you dumbass.
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And steve, TX had to get rid of Affirmative action in the same year as CA chose to do so. Here in CA, us voters decided to get rid of it. In TX, it was the courts.
CS Monitor Article
I don't believe Michigan eliminated it. If it did, why did a case between a student and the U of M law school go all the way to the supreme court? SC also upheld the law and AA is still in place at U of Michigan. Nice try though.
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| Reagan was born and raised in the Midwest and always identified with it. Nice try. |
Who cares? He was a movie actor who spent nearly all his adult life here in CA. |
Wait, when you say "a movie actor" do you mean "the only movie actor ever"? I'm so confused. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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