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International Debit Cards Discrimination
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cangel



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: Jeonju, S. Korea

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject: International Debit Cards Discrimination Reply with quote

I have an account at Woori Bank with the standard issue debit card. I went in today to apply for a one of their new VISA/Master Card debit cards with the PLUS label on the back. I was handed the phone and was told to speak with a Woori Bank rep. She stated that it is illegal for Korean banks to issue an international debit card to foreigners because we (foreigners) are only allowed to transfer USD10,000 out of the country during our entire stay here. She did say that there were other ways to transfer more money but it entails a lot of paperwork. Additionally, she stated that Korean-issued debit cards to foreigners with Cirrus or PLUS, can only be used domestically and somehow regulated so they can't be used outside of Korea. I'm completely shocked! Can anyone confirm or deny what she said? Is this blatant discrimination? Why am I unable to transfer MY money out of the country so long as I don't do it all at once? I think I'll be looking for a new bank soon!
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Octavius Hite



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well this is a lovely topic that comes up all the time so here goes. It is not illegal for you to have an international bank card, BUT there are many banks that think it is. If you want one, search through a bunch of different banks until you find one that lets you. I have one, and at least 2 of my friends got one in the last 6 months that work overseas.

It is NOT illegal to send more than 10,000$! You can send as much money as you want provided you can prove (i.e. pay stub/slip) you made it legally.
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joeyjoejoe



Joined: 24 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my buddy opened an account just last week.
he didn't even have to ask about an international card, they suggested it.
can't remember the name of the bank though sorry.
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regicide



Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joeyjoejoe wrote:
my buddy opened an account just last week.
he didn't even have to ask about an international card, they suggested it.
can't remember the name of the bank though sorry.


It's a crap shoot. The same bank , at a different branch may treat you differently. If you cant get one at one place, just try another.
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Vicissitude



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean banks will tell you all sorts of crap. I was once told I the teller couldn't give me my balance until after I closed out my account. I argued that I always able to get my balance at other branches.

I'm really angry at this banking policy you are speaking about. How on earth are we suppose to get our money out of a Korean bank after the pension office deposits it? Contracts are one year and when they are up, we have to leave Korea. So you leave Korea (for a better job elsewhere) and then you can't have your pension money because the banks will not let you get it out unless you are IN Korea. I've heard of other teachers who left Korea before they got all their money out of the banks. The only way for them to get the money out is to fly back to Korea, which requires paying for an expensive flight and cost for accomodations. Meanwhile, Koreans have no trouble getting their funds out of Korean banks any which way they please.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it sucks. I got one by going to a different bank. My friend went to the same bank and they wouldn't give him one. It's not just the bank, but the teller or manager you get. Complete crapshoot.
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vicissitude wrote:
Korean banks will tell you all sorts of crap. I was once told I the teller couldn't give me my balance until after I closed out my account. I argued that I always able to get my balance at other branches.

I'm really angry at this banking policy you are speaking about. How on earth are we suppose to get our money out of a Korean bank after the pension office deposits it? Contracts are one year and when they are up, we have to leave Korea. So you leave Korea (for a better job elsewhere) and then you can't have your pension money because the banks will not let you get it out unless you are IN Korea. I've heard of other teachers who left Korea before they got all their money out of the banks. The only way for them to get the money out is to fly back to Korea, which requires paying for an expensive flight and cost for accomodations. Meanwhile, Koreans have no trouble getting their funds out of Korean banks any which way they please.


Deposit it in your friends account, get them to send it to you.
(Can I be your friend?)
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ED209 wrote:


Deposit it in your friends account, get them to send it to you.
(Can I be your friend?)


I'd make a better friend. I mean look at his avatar. Who will you trust, the cute puppy and kitten or the inhumane killer robot Wink
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cangel



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: Jeonju, S. Korea

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone with a domestically issued Korean debit card (Plus or Cirrus) actually used the card outside Korea? She said I could get a PLUS card but it would be invalid outside Korea.
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hubba bubba



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cangel wrote:
Has anyone with a domestically issued Korean debit card (Plus or Cirrus) actually used the card outside Korea? She said I could get a PLUS card but it would be invalid outside Korea.


F them. Close your account and go to KB*. They gave me one. We'll see if it actually works out of the country in a few months.
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hogwonguy1979



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: the racoon den

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love for somebody to show me the law that says foreigners cant have int atm cards, that way if its not legal i can show it to my bank.

dont ask amcham, knto or the finance ministry to help, tried those and got dead ends
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone have any experiences with KB (Kookmin Bank)?
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bixlerscott



Joined: 27 Sep 2006
Location: Near Wonju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait a minute, I understand that Korean Pension is paid into any bank account such as in your home country about 6 weeks after you apply for it, not your Korean bank account. I understand that you are to close your Korean bank account before you leave, even if you are coming back. ???

The finanial matters at the end (final pay process) are still a mystery to me as I cannot find much info (what is the process of tying ends) on that other than you can apply for your pension once you have your airline ticket and you can get your pension wired to your American bank account if your American.

Korea should create a standarized system for teachers when it comes to the finance and law aspects that comes into play with teaching English. This also might help the hagwons better understand what is expected of them too. My boss and me have not even discussed such things and I sure hope all is well. Should be, I am not thier first foreign teacher in thier 12 years of existence so they should know what I expect and how it is all done to tie all ends.

Korea is struggling for foreign teachers, not because there are not enough willing to go on this adventure (lots of Americans want to travel and work in Asia), but becuase it is unclear or simply (everything must be negotiated on an individual unique one of kind basis with no guarantees) unknown to many who would, thus, causing a lack of confidence for many who are prospecting for international job career opportunity after completing thier bachelors.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cangel wrote:
Has anyone with a domestically issued Korean debit card (Plus or Cirrus) actually used the card outside Korea? She said I could get a PLUS card but it would be invalid outside Korea.

My Shinhan card worked in Japan, Thailand, France, Switzerland, and Germany. Oh, and Canada.

Vicissitude wrote:
I'm really angry at this banking policy you are speaking about. How on earth are we suppose to get our money out of a Korean bank after the pension office deposits it? .

Have them deposit it into your home account. It's one of the options they give you.
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skconqueror



Joined: 31 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KB, KEB, and Citibank.. would NOT give me an international card.
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