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johnt11
Joined: 17 Nov 2006
Location: Busan
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 Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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I have been here for a couple of months now and i have come to realise that there are very few brits here.
The north americans here are sound though and at the end of the day not that different to us.
The beer is good and cheap in my opinon and the football is awesome. I am a fully fledged season ticket holder at incheon utd and me and my football going friend (irish) have been accepted into the home fans like they are our brothers.
"Forever Incheon" |
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cassette
Joined: 08 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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I've no idea if it is even still there, and forgive these bad directions - it has been over a year...
The place is called Hallal. From the station, cross over the footbridge in front of the department store, and follow the large road away from the station (the one that the buses towards city hall follow, with the Pizza Hut and other fast food restaurants on). Just after starting to walk along the street proper, and before the bus stops, duck down one of the alleyways on the right that lead to the market-like area. I think the corner had a bakery of some kind on it. Hallal is a few doors down on the right of the alley, and the door is just a gate to another tiny alleyway that leads to the entrance.
They had Hindi movies for hire and Indian stuff (e.g. toiletries) for sale, and it was clearly meant for the Indian ex-pats in Suwon. But the food tasted great, and was incredibly cheap. The keema especially was wonderful.
Would be interested to hear if it's still there! PM me if those instructions weren't clear and I'll try to remember more details. |
Thanks alot for that. I know the area and will try to find the resturant. I'll let you know if successful. |
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nobbyken
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Good to see ole Arfur alive and well.......
Pronounciation will be American by nearly all students, but they can't really hear it.
I have a strong Scottish accent, which was a hindrance during the first few interviews.
Pretend you are talking to old people, and speak clearly with an even breath.
I have had no problems, except from people who expect you to speak with an American accent.
I think Korea would like to be as close to the USA as Canada.] |
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BS.Dos.
Joined: 29 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:29 am Post subject: |
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I'm find it very amusing reading accounts of Brits who, at one time or another, decided to adopt dodgy North American accents in order to blend in. I'm sure that they have to be heard to be believed.
Any mp3 recordings would be gratefully recieved. |
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mervsdamun
Joined: 06 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:46 am Post subject: |
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I�m not a Brit and I prefer American football but am a keen follower the round ball game as well. The league in Korea is decent enough, though a little on the defensive side with relatively higher % of low scoring matches then in most top level leagues.
The attendances can also be up and down. On the weekend there were 55,000 for the Seoul v Suwon K-League match but last night in the league cup competition only one match had a 5 figure attendance. The stadiums are of good quality though and you can bring your own alcohol to the matches.
Couple differences to the set up in England:
- there is a play-off part at the end of the K-League season, with the top-6 playing for the championship
- FA Cup set up is similar
- League Cup is only open to the top division teams and is played as a tournament (2 groups, with the top two in each group making the finals).
- Only one continental club championship, the AFC Champions League, for which only the Champions and FA Cup winners qualify
- There is a way big priority on the National Team in Korea
Do you know where you will be heading? Could tell you more about the local teams then.
For more info on the league (in English) check out:
http://www.rokfootball.com/
Or join their forum at:
http://forum.rokfootball.com/ |
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mervsdamun
Joined: 06 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul
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mervsdamun
Joined: 06 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| BS.Dos. wrote: |
| I'm find it very amusing reading accounts of Brits who, at one time or another, decided to adopt dodgy North American accents in order to blend in. |
It's totally unnecessary. Koreans can't tell the difference if you're quite well-spoken and - more importantly I think - speak slowly. I've done experiments that prove the hypothesis.....pretend you're from North America. They rarely tell. Ask them to guess where you're from after they've heard you say a few sentences at least and they always guess America first and Canada second. England sometimes even comes 5th after Aus and NZ. Unlike kids, adults who've studied/lived in an English-speaking country are usually accented (Korean). The preference for North American English, whilst it does exist, is exaggerated (a) by Koreans, typically as an excuse for their abysmal English (and not for want of effort)..... ooh, I didn't understand because we're more accustomed to North American English (complete rubbish - they always struggle with easy North American texts as well), (b) by North Americans to make themselves feel more desirable. Americans (although not Canadians) appear to struggle with the reputation that they are arrogant and difficult. I've heard this so many times it seems Koreans think it's just a fact of life. Brits don't have this difficulty at all, it would appear. So it's quite a mixed situation with a few factors. A major factor however is that North America is home to 75% of the English-speaking population, so we should expect and encourage North American materials. |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| SPINOZA wrote: |
| BS.Dos. wrote: |
| I'm find it very amusing reading accounts of Brits who, at one time or another, decided to adopt dodgy North American accents in order to blend in. |
It's totally unnecessary. Koreans can't tell the difference if you're quite well-spoken and - more importantly I think - speak slowly. |
You can be well spoken and still have a heavy accent. The problem is that most people expected a NA accent for English (some even thought the language was invented by the Americans!).
Which was funny because during a listening test the other day, my students couldn't understand "He had to think about the problem quickly", where everyone including myself heard "a boot". And that was a Canadian!
I pretty much have a neutral accent which changes depending on who I speak to (normally in Brit, for fun in Aussie). |
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mervsdamun
Joined: 06 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Spinoza is spot on.
I had a friend who was born in central Europe but went to high school and university in New Zealand. He had a heavy accent most of the time (esp. when drunk) but when he slowed down somewhat, he was actually easier to understand then most New Zealanders I know. That wasn�t only my observation. What took the cake was that during one staff meeting the other foreign teachers (inc. Canadians) were instructed by the director to speak like him.
So essentially, if you speak slowly and drop the slang (like he did) no one should complain about your accent too much. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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I've got a not too heavy Boston Accent. Problem is when I try too hard to unaccent my speech, I put the "r" sound where it doesn't belong (ie. Kennedy's Cuber). So I stick with the Bostoneese and the students are happy to lose the trailing "r" sound.
All my students can say:
Pa k the ca' in Ha vid Ya d.
cbc |
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irwinpryce
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Joined: 30 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:57 am Post subject: |
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I want to go to korea to meet new people, see a new city and experience a new culture- etc, you all know the rest.
Being a 22 year old male I do enjoy drinking beer and clubbing.
As a new person in Korea I would love to spend time talking to and meeting English speakers. Though I would enjoy learning a new language and being surrounded by Koreans, it would help keep me sane to have normal English conversations.
Forgive me for sounding like some kind of slob, but it just seems from reading messages on this forum, the posters look down upon those who want to meet other English people. Perhaps I am wrong.
Do English people get together on say Saturday nights and frequent a bar, bringing other friends and allowing a social network to exist?
Do people from this forum arrange meet ups for meals, drinks, cinema etc?-
Sorry for the million questions, however I am just a little worried about going to a new country and being the complete alien without any English speaking friends.
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 5:16 am Post subject: |
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| irwinpryce wrote: |
I want to go to korea to meet new people, see a new city and experience a new culture- etc, you all know the rest.
Being a 22 year old male I do enjoy drinking beer and clubbing.
As a new person in Korea I would love to spend time talking to and meeting English speakers. Though I would enjoy learning a new language and being surrounded by Koreans, it would help keep me sane to have normal English conversations.
Forgive me for sounding like some kind of slob, but it just seems from reading messages on this forum, the posters look down upon those who want to meet other English people. Perhaps I am wrong.
Do English people get together on say Saturday nights and frequent a bar, bringing other friends and allowing a social network to exist?
Do people from this forum arrange meet ups for meals, drinks, cinema etc?-
Sorry for the million questions, however I am just a little worried about going to a new country and being the complete alien without any English speaking friends.
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Don't worry.
Foreigners usually hang out with other foreigners here. Personally, I don't feel that's a bad thing. Koreans are fine and I have good Korean friends but usually I prefer the company of other foreigners. Remember, you will be mixing with people from all the 7 English speaking countries. So it's not like you will be travelling 6000 miles to hang out with your homeys. |
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fromtheuk
Joined: 31 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: |
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I'm coming to S. Korea to teach for the first time, probably next week.
To be quite frank I've always felt like a foreigner in the U.K. anyway so I'm not too daunted by that. I'm of Pakistani origin.
So, technically I'm originally from the same continent as S. Korea!
I suppose going to S. Korea for native Brits may provide them with an insight into how ethnic minorities feel  |
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MissSeoul
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Somewhere in America
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:27 am Post subject: |
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| mervsdamun wrote: |
| I�m not a Brit and I prefer American football but am a keen follower the round ball game as well. |
Spinoza said people who say " American football ", is STUPID and should say just *football* in korea and in America.
( go to check under my post *I have a serious question to all of you* )
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