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Dev
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Have you noticed that most of the items which do not seem to fit with Korea are items which are historically recent to Korea?
Koreans have not had time to learn to drive or to learn to protect their children from traffic.
Hence their high accident rate.
Koreans have not had time to learn how to teach foreign language.
Hence their abyssmal teaching methods.
Koreans have not had time to learn about Christianity.
Hence their misconceptions.
Korea was agricultural society throughout most of its history, and agriculture is not a one-man business.
Hence their insistence on togetherness.
If it were the other way around, with Korean culture invading our culture, the Koreans would probably get on the Internet and say, "Oh, those Westerners! They make the awfullest kimchi!" |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Have you noticed that most of the items which do not seem to fit with Korea are items which are historically recent to Korea?
Koreans have not had time to learn to drive or to learn to protect their children from traffic.
Hence their high accident rate.
Koreans have not had time to learn how to teach foreign language.
Hence their abyssmal teaching methods.
Koreans have not had time to learn about Christianity.
Hence their misconceptions.
Korea was agricultural society throughout most of its history, and agriculture is not a one-man business.
Hence their insistence on togetherness.
If it were the other way around, with Korean culture invading our culture, the Koreans would probably get on the Internet and say, "Oh, those Westerners! They make the awfullest kimchi!" |
This whole post is nonsense. Koreans have not had the time to learn to drive? What are you suggesting? That their driving courses are too short?
It's more like a general lack of respect for road regulations and the common man.
On top of that, In the 3 years I have been here, I have yet to see a Korean cop pull over any vehicule for a driving violation.
And if their agricultural way of life made them into group-oriented people, why are Koreans so disrespectful to each other in public? |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Another answer for this thread is Credit Cards.
I've heard that Koreans are even worse than Americans for credit card debt. |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:26 am Post subject: yes |
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Are these crazy new religions that keep popping up (like the one who worships the ajumma) Christians? I think they fit the loose definition. They believe in the same God, just somewhat differently.
Are they protestants by default? I don't think so.
At least 1 reader caught what I said. I don't like the way Christianity is practiced over here, but the Catholics seem to be the most reasonable.
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1. Christianity. The Catholics here seem to be quite reasonable and laid-back. They don't feel the need to preach their religion to everyone. The Protestants need to tell everyone. They're like the JW's back at home.
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What are you talking about?
Catholism and Protestantism are both forms of Christianity. Looks like you've been spending too much time around Koreans who don't know this.
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Ummm... the OP didn't say any differently. Read more slowly? |
No he didn't, but if he wanted to complain about Korean Protestants, but not Korean Catholics, then he could just have stated that Protestantism doesn't "mix well". |
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:33 am Post subject: |
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| Dangerous household chemicals and implements. |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:07 am Post subject: |
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Some of the Protestants in Korea remind me of the Christians from the South in the United States or Alberta, Canada. Many of those Protestants are Evangelicals who do not consider Catholics, who existed before Evangelicals or Protestantism, to be Christians. So this is not just an idea that exists in Korea. They got this notion from fanatical missionaries. Many of the Evangelicals in the South and Alberta are overwhelmingly Republican or Conservative often do not believe in a state that has progressive taxation, social programs for the poor etc...and many are materialistic. Many of the Korean Protestants are an extreme version of this. So I have seen this kind of thing before but in somewhat milder form. I didn't expect to see this in an Asian country. I generally prefer the Catholics and Buddhists and some laid back Protestants (lets be fair there are some decent Presbyterians as well).
I will admit, I have been guilty of using an elevator to go to the 1st floor.
I have walked a ton of stairs in my life and frankly I just love elevators and the button, so sue me! I only do that at one location and not an apartment building, and it is an elevator no one really uses. So I guess I am exempt.
What I find funny about Koreans but sometimes annoying is when someone is honking at me when I pulling something out of a trunk from a taxi. The honking is crazy. It is not as bad as Egypt, but it is still bad.
And they are in a hurry for nothing. However, when they are shopping many Koreans act like it doesn't matter if they are moving as slow as snails or if someone is behind them. It is really torture to shop if there are lots of ajummas around. I don't mean to say that to be offensive, but they don't seem to care if people are behind them trying to shop and get out.
Some foreigners really like Korean food. I like some dishes, but I prefer Indian, Turkish, or Italian. I am not going to slam Korean food. We just have different tastes... |
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stevemcgarrett

Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Dev wrote:
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It's more like a general lack of respect for road regulations and the common man.
On top of that, In the 3 years I have been here, I have yet to see a Korean cop pull over any vehicule for a driving violation. |
Man, isn't this the case. I've been here only 18 months but in that time I've never seen a cop doing anything.
Last night I saw 5 vehicles go through an intersection at an avenue several seconds after the light had turned red. It's amazing that I have yet to see an accident from this behavior. |
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merlot

Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Location: I tried to contain myself but I escaped.
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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twg

Joined: 02 Nov 2006 Location: Getting some fresh air...
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| What's the real purpose of this thread? Come on, guys, this isn't really necessary. Stereotypes and wild generalisations are not helpful. |
Welcome to ESL Cafe. Enjoy your stay. |
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philogirl81
Joined: 06 Oct 2006
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 5:42 am Post subject: |
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Two Things:
1) Koreans and Judiasm
I have been asked what I do for "Jewish Christmas". There has been confusion at my school as to why I do not celebrate Easter "But Jesus was a Jew"- my boss said. Reply- Yes, until he became a heretic and falely declared himself a son of god. That went competly over her head. So, my school now things I am a "funny" Christian. Which is odd, because I have been to church twice and to temple about five times.
2) Koreans and anything remotly resembling what is refered to as "Music"- at least music that is original, unique, or remotly containing the presence of a beat. And yes, I have heard "Abe Maria" and been told on numerous occasions that it is a uniquely Korean song and was not ripped off of the eighties song "Ave Maria" that sounds just like the Korean version only in English. |
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blynch

Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Location: UCLA
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| butlerian wrote: |
| What's the real purpose of this thread? Come on, guys, this isn't really necessary. Stereotypes and wild generalisations are not helpful. |
Welcome to ESL Cafe. Enjoy your stay. |
Yes the rats are at it again. Sadly these rats teach... children.
But the universe is never out of balance. Their lives might be out of balance but the universe and life itself are never out of balance... life keeps itself interesting for us. |
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twilightsummers

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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:28 pm Post subject: Korean cops |
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Dev wrote:
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It's more like a general lack of respect for road regulations and the common man.
On top of that, In the 3 years I have been here, I have yet to see a Korean cop pull over any vehicule for a driving violation. |
Man, isn't this the case. I've been here only 18 months but in that time I've never seen a cop doing anything.
Last night I saw 5 vehicles go through an intersection at an avenue several seconds after the light had turned red. It's amazing that I have yet to see an accident from this behavior. |
I used to think that the cops here wore permanent traffic blinders, then one night I was in a taxi with some friends and, after running a light, our taxi was pulled over! Unbelievable! The combination of our Korean language knowledge at that time was very limited, so we couldn't follow the conversation; nonetheless, the driver appeared to be seriously nervous. The policeman was there long enough for the driver to grudgingly pause the meter. And he kept pointing at us, so no doubt he was graciously explaining that the crazy foreigners had insisted he run the light. Must have worked because the cop let us go with no ticket! |
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Kwangjuchicken

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="DRAMA OVERKILL"]
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| What's the real purpose of this thread? Come on, guys, this isn't really necessary. Stereotypes and wild generalisations are not helpful. |
True, not helpful... But, perhaps it's just for fun... Very few threads seem to have any purpose...[/quote]
I agree 100%. Thank God my thread has purpose. |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:47 am Post subject: |
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| I've heard that Koreans are even worse than Americans for credit card debt. |
Average household is/was 45(?) million in the red. That was a 2005 figure, I think. Yeah, but we are the problem. |
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