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the saint



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: US history sucks Reply with quote

I've just finished a remarkable book i thought you US citizens should read... wonder how many of you have...

http://johnandsheena.co.uk/books/?p=24

comments welcome Twisted Evil
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dmbfan



Joined: 09 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmm....sort of like "The sun never set on the British Empire."?


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huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:25 pm    Post subject: Re: US history sucks Reply with quote

the saint wrote:
I've just finished a remarkable book i thought you US citizens should read... wonder how many of you have...


I'd reckon that any American with more than a passing interest in history is already aware of their country's transgressions.

No more sordid than the histories of Britain, France, Spain, Russia, China, Japan, or a host of other countries.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a terrific book, but it's 37 years old. It isn't exactly news.

Since this kind of thing appeals to you, perhaps you could recommend a book about the massacre at Amritsar or that 'battle' in Africa where the Brits used machine guns on spear-carrying...Fuzzy Wuzzies, was it?
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wylies99



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old stuff. Read it in high school. Kinda one-sided.
Unlike MANY other countries, the US learns from its mistakes, and MOVES ON.
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dmbfan



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it me, or does it smell like Troll in here?



"I'm crushing your head, I'm crushing your head".


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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe a troll. Rolling Eyes

The book is interesting, but who believes everything they read? Rolling Eyes

Yeah, a troll. Rolling Eyes
Hey, TROLL- it's Saturday- go to Itaewon and start drinking. Laughing That's what your supposed to do on Saturday- not bother people online.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most history sucks Twisted Evil
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merkurix



Joined: 21 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
'battle' in Africa where the Brits used machine guns on spear-carrying...Fuzzy Wuzzies, was it?


Moon of Endor? LOL
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faster



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably most people know already, but just in case, I also strongly recommend Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States and some Korea-centric stuff by Bruce Cumings, Korea's Place in the Sun and North Korea.
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postfundie



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Probably most people know already, but just in case, I also strongly recommend Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States


I read that book all the way through when I was back in the States...I was glad to find out my voting rights came only because they were in the monetary interests of white capitalists ........



Also guess we Americans should introduce ourselves by our names then start talking about how 'we' stole the land...
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The evil penguin



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:

Unlike MANY other countries, the US learns from its mistakes, and MOVES ON.


Ha dee ha hee hee.....oh wait... you're serious...
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DCJames



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
Old stuff. Read it in high school. Kinda one-sided.
Unlike MANY other countries, the US learns from its mistakes, and MOVES ON.


ummm, no.
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MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It always amuses me when a person reads ONE book covering ONE facet of American history and suddenly feels entitled to pass judgment on who was to blame for the historical outcome.

Saint-- If you're really interested in learning about American History, read Allen W. Eckert's "Winning of America" series. I hope you're not too disappointed when you learn that there were good people and bad people on all sides (British, French, and Native American).

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superacidjax



Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DCJames wrote:
wylies99 wrote:
Old stuff. Read it in high school. Kinda one-sided.
Unlike MANY other countries, the US learns from its mistakes, and MOVES ON.


ummm, no.


Canada is the only truly good country. They never do anything wrong.
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