Korean Job Discussion Forums

[mgafunnell]

just wondering. if anyone has any information, i would greatly appreciate it.

[Cheonmunka]

A lesson that focusses ultimately on an objective(s) that will be gained by the learner.
A lesson that includes activities or methods to suit each student's learning style. Mostly these fall into categories of kineasthetic, audial, or visual-type learners. It is to make objectives more accessible for each student.

It used to be teachers in NZ had the Diploma of Teaching. Now the qual. is the Diploma of Teaching and Learning. It's a change of focus. I think a correct one, too.

I am guessing that this is what the 'learner based lessons' mean.

[oldfatfarang]

I think it's also called 'Student Centred, Task-Based' learning.
Essentially, in SCTB learning the focus is on the 'teacher' being a motivator, providing the opportunity for the student to participate in a 'guided learning' task where the student learns by actively taking part in the learning process (using goal orientated tasks). Theoretically, and practically, students learn (and remember) more using this active learning style. SCTB learning is a great method for active language acquisition.

The polar opposite: the 'Teacher Centred' model, is the Confucian style used in Korea. For example, the 'teacher' has the knowledge, the teacher inparts this to passive-learning students who write it down - wrote learn it - are tested on it - and then forget it. Completely useless for language acquisition (witness Korean's spoken language skills).

I hope that's correct. Sounds good to me, anyway.

[rothkowitz]

[Scott in Incheon]

Learner centered lesson is one step up from the student centered lesson. The general idea is that everyone in the class is there to learn. You are a community of learners, and at the same time, a community of experts. The expert side is that your students have usually have knowledge about something which they can pass on to you and to the class. The class (community) works together to share their knowledge.

This puts the teacher on the same level as the class. In the student centered class, the teachers was somewhat separated from the class...at least in theory.

[Ya-ta Boy]

I think everyone can more or less guess what the theory is. What we need are some examples to demonstrate the theory in action. How is it different from Communicative?

[rothkowitz]

It's highly ideational and usually bears no practical application unless the students share the same thing in mind

What drives a Korean student?Or are they merely there by educational default?

You can wrap things up in ESL/EFL or motivation speak as you like but how many students have a sufficient grasp of language to let the teacher become a co-ordinator and,secondly,how does one distinguish between students who are getting it done anyway from a teacher being less didactic?

There is a lot to be said for not interrupting students if they're communicating by themselves and correcting each other.Just try to keep them within limits.Just as a game doesn't exist without rules,language needs structure.

[HapKi]

Examples:

Teacher-based Learning:
Teacher: Okay everyone. Today we are going to look at the present progressive. Look at the picture and look what I've written on the board. Johnny has a ball. What is he doing with the ball? He is kicking the ball. Everyone repeat. He..is...kicking...the...ball. Very good. Okay. Number one. Look at number one. Mary has a paint brush. What is she doing with the paint brush? Anybody? Anybody know? She's painting with the paint brush. Everyone repeat. She...is...painting...with...the...paint...brush. Very good. Number two....

Student-based Learning:
Student 1 has a picture. Student 2 doesn't have a picture. Student 2 has to recreate 1's picture by drawing what 1 says.
Student 1: Number 1.
Student 2: What is he doing?
Student 1: His name is Johnny. He has ball. Ball is red. Johnny kick...kick...kicking ball.
Student 2: Johnny? Spelling. Ball is blue?
Student 1: No. Red.
Etc...

In teacher-based learning, the focus tends to be on accuracy, with a lot of authentic target language provide by the teacher. This exposure to authentic English, it is believed, will help students subconsciously absorb the language, similar to how a baby learns their first language. See Krashen's "Natural Approach."

In student-based learning, focus tends to be more on fluency, in students being able to get their message across. It's up to the teacher to decide which errors to correct, if at all. Teacher is facilitator, and students must take more control in their learning. Student motivation must be higher. Pair or small group work is common.

[Juregen]

In other words a good mix is best .

[Novernae]

[rothkowitz]

It was a facetious remark aimed at an ideational model of learning.Or,confucist teacher centred etc.as was remarked.

Get a grip.I wasn't actually saying to sit his arse down.I was merely making the point that a teacher has to maintain their presence in the classroom and that the idea of the teacher dissolving into a mist of "everything goes" doesn't necessarily mean that everything works.

English competency has to mirror being intelligible less it becomes relegated to being,well,nothing.

I make spelling mistakes.I'm also chronically unsure of how to use an apostrophe.In those cases,I need to sit down with someone and nut it out.

Like a true pedant you couldn't/wouldn't extrapolate the gist of my point.

I've peeved you for a couple of months?You give me the rolling eye icon?

Well excuse me all over.................

[Novernae]

[kimchi story]

Actually, rothkowitz, you were saying he should sit his ass down. It may have been true, but it wasn't particularly funny.

I believe you meant 'lest it become' and not 'less it becomes'.

yimini, the blind leading the blind, alright.

[mack4289]

Is there somewhere we can bet on how many posts it takes for a thread to degenerate into petty bickering? That'd make Dave's a lot more interesting.

[gsxr750r]