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Donating blood in Korea
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crazylemongirl wrote:
Hey beaver,
you can give me a call for a pint or two.

CLG


You rock. I knew when we met (however briefly it was) that you weren't just another pretty face. . .

I'll return the favor should you need it.
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Clutch Cargo



Joined: 28 Feb 2003
Location: Sim City 2005

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was a regular donor in Australia between '97 and '01, every few months. Nice atmosphere, doing a good deed, free jelly beans and juice etc. Then when the mad cows disease thing really hit they wouldn't take my blood any more as my records showed that I'd lived in the U.K for more than a year between whenever and whenever. I was pretty pissed about it too Mad . They said it has a dormancy period of up to several years, but I swear I feel fine. Miss those free beans and juice though. Udder madness.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gave blood mainly as an excuse to wag stats. But now I do it because I'm nice.

CLG
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desultude



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was turned down in the States for two years after my last tattoo. It seemed silly to me, but there was a scare about blood supply safety, and they were operating on the "better safe than sorry" principle.

The "health care" people at the blood bank where you went were obviously ignorant about things. But, here we go again painting a whole system from one experience. This is call "anecdotal evidence" , which is roundly dismissed as proof of anything except for one singular experience.

Donate won the the Red Cross here. They need it, there are a lot of poor people in the Southeast suffering because of the typhoon.
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whatthefunk



Joined: 21 Apr 2003
Location: Dont have a clue

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

travellingwilly wrote:
Just a quick one on this subject.Last year while in Beijing i met a middle aged Irish guy,who had been travelling for the last seven years.Anyway,he went home every now and then to see his kids and a couple of years ago,when he went home to Dublin he thought he would do a charitable deed and give some of his blood.The Irish blood bank would not touch his blood because because he had been to so many tropical places.He was a bit bemuzed by this, but,what made it all the more strange to him was that every time he has visited China(and that is a lot)they cant get a persons blood out of them fast enough.So his blood is not good enough for his own people,but the good old Chinese will take it off any old person that crawls in off the street.
Interesting!!


Alot of diseases that you can get in the tropics have a very long incubation period. This makes perfect sense to me.

Clutch Cargo wrote:
I was a regular donor in Australia between '97 and '01, every few months. Nice atmosphere, doing a good deed, free jelly beans and juice etc. Then when the mad cows disease thing really hit they wouldn't take my blood any more as my records showed that I'd lived in the U.K for more than a year between whenever and whenever. I was pretty pissed about it too . They said it has a dormancy period of up to several years, but I swear I feel fine. Miss those free beans and juice though. Udder madness.


Same goes for this one.

desultude wrote:
I was turned down in the States for two years after my last tattoo. It seemed silly to me, but there was a scare about blood supply safety, and they were operating on the "better safe than sorry" principle.


Same here for hepatitis.

All these make perfect sense to me because if I was on the receiving end, I would want to make sure that the blood was clean.

Tha AIDS thing is just ignorance though. I wonder how many Koreans believe tat we all have AIDS?
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A nurse and doctor both said most foreigners have AIDS?


I wonder how good their English was? I ask becuase I know from experience that often when Koreans try to say things in English, it comes out as less nuanced than it would were they speaking Korean. Perhaps the nurse meant to say something like "You as a foreigenr are more likely to have AIDS" but it got translated into "You have AIDS".

Whichever agency now handles blood donations in Canada now has a policy of not accepting blood from homosexuals under the assumption(almost certainly correct) that in Canada homosexuals are more likely to have AIDS than the general population(I have gay friends who've had their blood rejected for that very reason). Possibly, Korean doctors have decided(not unjustifiably) that foreigners are more likely to have AIDS than Koreans, and have planned their screening policies accordingly.

I believe that in Canada, homosexuals can still donate blood research purposes. I wonder if Korea has a similar policy for foreigners.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Incompatible? I've been drinking Korean blood for years now and never had any stomach problems.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The times I get super-irate here in Korea is when there's some whacky racist 'incident' out of the blue. For example a pet shop street, but I'm denied entry by two amused looking daughters of the pet-seller who just want to rattle my brain, I guess. So, I'm in the mood to simply view cute little animals, but denied entry because I'm of another race. So I'm totally shocked(!). My guard's down. What else could I do but light up? Last night I watched the SF movie 'Soldier' with Kurt Russel. He plays a genetically engineered and state-raised mercenary. He will not admit pain, his face looks like stone. The eyes, the window to the soul, have no expression. I couldn't watch it. The character reminded me too much of me, not during work when I am spontaneous and totally enjoy myself, but when I'm out 'ready for' things like the above, since the feeling of being burned/scorched like that is something I never want to be surprised by again.
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posco's trumpet



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: Beneath the Underdog

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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Manner of Speaking



Joined: 09 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

funplanet,

I hear you and understand why you are upset...despite medical and anthropological evidence to the contrary, a lot of Koreans do have a belief that Korean blood is 'special', and the reason for the clinic's reaction to your offer might be partly a subconscious belief that you would 'contaminate' pure Korean blood. And this is from a techology probably introduced to Korea by American medical personnel during the Korean war. But if I were you, I would just blow it off. After the tainted blood scandals in Canada in the 1990s, I personally don't believe in blood donations anymore. Although blood donations have saved hundreds of thousands of lives, the basic technology is more than 50 years old. It's become inherently more dangerous, in that it is much easier nowadays to spread blood-borne diseases, and new technologies such as low-blood-loss surgery and artificial blood is making it increasingly obsolete.


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Sarah-in-Korea



Joined: 20 Aug 2003

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was turned down from giving blood in Auckland because I'd had accupuncture in the last month. This was annoying because I worked alongside the blood donor group and felt like a gimp for not knowing. Apparently if the therapist uses disposable needles it's ok, but not if they re-use sterilized ones. There's a 3 month waiting period after treatment before you can give blood.

The best part of that job was the free chocolate biscuits (mmmmm, Toffee Pops) and hot drinks ALL DAY!
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helly



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: WORLDWIDE

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the compatibility issue is not the mix of Korean and western blook, per se, but the weaknesses of Western blood living inside a Korea body. You see, the quality of Korean blood is high enough that it will thrive in any environment. So, a Westerner needing blood tranfusions in Korea will have no difficulty. Feel safe as Korean blood is truly a cure-all.

However, Western blood is the contaminant and causes great damage to the Korean.


Of course, for all of us with mixed children, watch out! Their mixed blood has the propensity to wipe out an entire neighborhood.
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steroidmaximus



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: GangWon-Do

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've given blood 8 times. The first time I went to give blood, I was rejected cuz I'd smoked a doobie a few days before going in. Learned to wait.

If this story is true, it's the dumbest most ignorant thing I've ever heard. From doctors to boot. It kills me.
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Mankind



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You think your experience was bad????

Yesterday I went to visit an airline office that was on the 15th floor. Hopped on the elevator that only stopped on the even floors and went to the 16th (figuring I'll walk down a flight). Found the stairs after looking for like 2 minutes and proceeded down. What's the problem you ask? Every damn door was locked and I had to walk down 16 flights and take the odd elevator to the office.

Damn I hate unplanned exercise.

HAND Smile
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BTM



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Back in the saddle.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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However, the needles they use are apparently not at all like the ones used in America, and a spot on her arm was really grossly black for a couple of weeks.


Probably not so much a needle issue as the incompetence of the person wielding it. Leaked blood from vein = bruising.
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