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Crazy Bus Drivers (Bus Crashes in Ilsan into Lotte Dept)
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:35 am    Post subject: Crazy Bus Drivers (Bus Crashes in Ilsan into Lotte Dept) Reply with quote

I didn't see this, but my co-worker was talking about how she saw a bus that we sometimes take away from somewhere. She figured when she glass near the Lotte Department Store and a damaged column that somehow the bus managed to through a metal fence, then a lane and then up on the sidewalk to hit the Department Store. I keep on seeing bus drivers here cutting each other off. They have no sense of safety, order, or concept of driving at a safe speed or observing traffic lights properly. Some of the bus drivers are good, but too many are so bad.

I was making some jokes about the bus hitting the store with another co-worker "Attenion shoppers please do not head towards the exit as it could be injurious to your health".
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was on a bus the other day that almost hit a car. I'm not sure what happened but it looked like the car cut us off, and the bus swerved crazily and came to a stop in the middle of an intersection. I thought the bus driver did a good job avoiding a serious accident.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:04 am    Post subject: Re: Crazy Bus Drivers (Bus Crashes in Ilsan into Lotte Dept) Reply with quote

Adventurer wrote:
I keep on seeing bus drivers here cutting each other off. They have no sense of safety, order, or concept of driving at a safe speed or observing traffic lights properly. Some of the bus drivers are good, but too many are so bad.

It's not the bending and breaking of traffic rules that make them bad drivers (many taxi drivers and regular citizens can be worse), it's the way they slam on the gas/brake every 30 seconds, and fail to slow down as they careen around a corner...people trying to stand on the bus get tossed around like ragdolls, but I have yet to see a bus driver care when he does this.
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DCJames



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw a bus rear end another car the other day. Thank God that no one was hurt.

These wild bus drivers are taking not only their own lives in their hands, but everyone that's on the bus and everyone near them.

Seems rather silly of most of these bus drivers considering most drive like maniacs simply to make their break schedule.
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aldershot



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can't sit at the front of an intercity bus any longer. being forced to look out the front window and constantly observe how the bus is being driven nearly gives me a heart attack. the speeds those nutters drive at on the highways careening and swerving. i just can't watch it any longer. last weekend on my way to daegu i think we skipped hyperspace and went straight to plaid.
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LiquidSunshine



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

half a year ago, at that same spot in ilsan i saw the after-affects of the 100 (i think it was the 100) trying to make a left turn a little too fast. it was on its side in the middle of the intersection.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the drivers should get to watch tv and dvds on the dashboard, then put on pornography when a foreigner gets on the bus.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a bus to Gumi last fall, our driver did an incredible job of keeping us upright and alive. I was sitting in the death seat (front row-right). Some clown in a beat up mini car pulled out maybe 20 or so meteres in front of us. We were at highway speed, about 85 clicks. Yes, I was watching. The driver snapped the bus left, the rear drifted right, he snapped it right, the rear drifted left. I was looking out his side window....in the direction we were going. We headed over to the shoulder, rode up it a bit and back down. I don't think any of our wheels left the ground, but I wouldn't be surprised if one or two did. The driver was shifting, braking and steering at the same time. He was remarkable. The driver of the car didn't even slow down. The bus driver immediately got on his cell phone and had something very angry to say to someone including a plate number. I'm guessing he called the police or his dispatch. At the station, he formally apologized to us 8 or ten passengers.

I will put my life in a professional drivers hand any day over Mrs Kim on her way to the grocery store, or Mr Song on his way home from tennis and soju.
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Adventurer



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have observed that a minority of the bus drivers in Ilsan, at least, drive carefully and at a reasonable speed not as if they are in a hurry to die and take the passengers with them. There is no reason for a bus to hit Lotte Department Store. Yes, there are also way too many crazy Korean drivers who cut off buses. I don't think I've really seen many people back home try to cut off buses unless they had a death wish. I think some people in Korea believe that the other person should know that he is supposed to be first, and he doesn't care if the person is driving a bus or not, because he is Mr. Kim. Too many people seem way too oblivious to other people. My co-worker was walking in this girl was walking and talking on the phone and he wasn't moving out of her way if she kept moving and not paying attention she could have bumped into a large Western fellow and her small self would have felt weird. Pay attention, people!!!!
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poet13 wrote:
I will put my life in a professional drivers hand any day

Define "professional driver", and how exactly does one become one?
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shifdog



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In addition to being bad drivers, many of the bus drivers seem to hate their jobs. They have permanent scowls and can be unhelpful to passengers asking questions. One bus driver wouldn't let me get on when the bus was stopped at a red light. I was only about 30 yards from the bus stop.
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endo



Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shifdog wrote:
In addition to being bad drivers, many of the bus drivers seem to hate their jobs. They have permanent scowls and can be unhelpful to passengers asking questions. One bus driver wouldn't let me get on when the bus was stopped at a red light. I was only about 30 yards from the bus stop.


Are we in the same country?

Seriously.

Most bus drivers I've experiedced are usually friendly. Especially when you greet them in Korean when stepping on to the bus.

If you ever take the 603 Blue bus in Mokdong, there is a legendary (well at least in my books) bus driver who plays classical and jazz music and acts like a disc jockey by intorducing each song. He is one of the nicest and most positive thinking individuals I've ever met.


The scowles you talk about are likely to occur from morons like yourself who are not at the bus stop at time and expect to get one anyway.

In all seriousness, how do you think you'd feel if you had to drive through the streets of Seoul 6 days a week?
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shifdog



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

endo wrote:
shifdog wrote:
In addition to being bad drivers, many of the bus drivers seem to hate their jobs. They have permanent scowls and can be unhelpful to passengers asking questions. One bus driver wouldn't let me get on when the bus was stopped at a red light. I was only about 30 yards from the bus stop.


Are we in the same country?

Seriously.

Most bus drivers I've experiedced are usually friendly. Especially when you greet them in Korean when stepping on to the bus.

If you ever take the 603 Blue bus in Mokdong, there is a legendary (well at least in my books) bus driver who plays classical and jazz music and acts like a disc jockey by intorducing each song. He is one of the nicest and most positive thinking individuals I've ever met.


The scowles you talk about are likely to occur from morons like yourself who are not at the bus stop at time and expect to get one anyway.

In all seriousness, how do you think you'd feel if you had to drive through the streets of Seoul 6 days a week?


There's nothing wrong with allowing someone onto the bus who isn't at the bus stop. It happens quite often in Seoul and in other cities throughout the world.

What's moronic about trying to get on a bus when it's not at the stop?

You should ride the buses more often. You'll see what I'm talking about.
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Sine qua non



Joined: 18 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

endo wrote:
...who are not at the bus stop at time and expect to get one anyway.


You are omitting the example of being at the stop on time, waiting for the bus, stepping onto to asphalt (necessary, notwithstanding how ignorant a Western upbringing would consider that to be), and waving down the bus....as it continues and blows by its stop.

This is a common occurence here.

However, regarding the attitude of bus drivers, in my humble experiences about 60% of the drivers I've encountered seemed mildly- to highly-unfriendly and the remaining 40% seemed mildly- to highly-friendly.
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rawiri



Joined: 01 Jun 2003
Location: Lovely day for a fire drill.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get the bus every day (shame shame) and i'd say that whatever they pay them isn't enough. I'd go crazy negotiating a bus through traffic here, they rarely seem to get flustered. 90% of the time i'm greeted with an annyeong hasayeo and a slight bow. One of the cool things is whenevr they pass a bus of the same company both drivers salute each other.
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