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Idiot Computer 'Experts' (rant) and Data Recovery
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My question is: Did you pay him for his "services"?

KPRROK
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rocklee



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you give him the instructions in writing or verbally? That could make a difference if he was busy. Otherwise he screwed up if he had to format the hard disk just to set up the new motherboard.

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Right now, my 300 GB drive is the Master, and the 60 GB is the Slave.


I understand this is 2 separate hard drives we talking about, drive no.1 is 300GB and drive no.2 is 60GB.

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I've now got everything backed up onto the 300 GB drive, along with the non-genuine install of Windows. My plan is to install my legit version of XP on the 60 GB drive. Can I install XP on the 60 GB drive, leave it as the slave (for now) until I get things exactly as I want them, and then when ready, switch the 60 over to the Master? In other words, will the computer continue to boot to the Windows installed on the 300 GB until I physically switch it over to the slave?


If you have 2 drives then its simple, just make sure that the drive that you want to boot up is set to be the master drive (and the other a slave drive). Upon booting the computer will boot from the master drive. So if your 60GB is the master drive then Windows will boot from it. Just make sure that the 300GB is set to the slave drive.
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rocklee



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:
I've done it too, but honestly, a putting a new mainboard in a system will be...odd without a format. I have done it twice actually...once on my own machine and once on another's. Both times, the machines were useable, but had some noticeable glitches.


I've tried using the same Windows build on a hard disk for 2 different CPUs (Intel/AMD) and of course it didn't work.

HOWEVER, you can just use your Windows installation CD and do a re-installation of Windows. If I can recall there is an option called "repair", which would just update your current Windows to run on the new hardware. All your software would remain intact.
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Thunndarr



Joined: 30 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rocklee wrote:
Demophobe wrote:
I've done it too, but honestly, a putting a new mainboard in a system will be...odd without a format. I have done it twice actually...once on my own machine and once on another's. Both times, the machines were useable, but had some noticeable glitches.


I've tried using the same Windows build on a hard disk for 2 different CPUs (Intel/AMD) and of course it didn't work.

HOWEVER, you can just use your Windows installation CD and do a re-installation of Windows. If I can recall there is an option called "repair", which would just update your current Windows to run on the new hardware. All your software would remain intact.


Yeah, we covered that on page 1 of this thread.
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rocklee



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm just pointing out 2 ways of restoring a system, one is via repair and the other is via a total re-installation, both of which I have done many times a few years back with no problem. I didn't see your post.
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Confused Canadian



Joined: 21 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 1:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kprrok wrote:
My question is: Did you pay him for his "services"?

KPRROK


Unfortunately, yes...it wasn't until after he'd left that I realized he'd formated, and thus deleted all my other data. We called him back to the apartment and yelled at him for 1/2 an hour or so, but at this point he already had the cash. Again, a 'decent' human being may have offered an apology, or at least a partial refund. Unfortunately, I wasn't dealing with a 'decent' human being. By the end, I wanted the guy out of my house. I realized he wasn't going to do anything about his mistakes, and I just couldn't stand the sight of him anymore.

Actually, interesting story...the guy that did our data recovery got into his current line of work while working as a computer A/S repair guy. He accidentally formated one of his customers drives, and his boss made him find and pay for the data recovery service. He worked with a friend in the business for a while and has now branched out on his own.

Anyways, the wife plans to give our 'repair guy' a piece of her mind sometime this week (too busy catching up on missed work at the moment), and she's gonna be sure to let him know that:

a) I'm gonna have to re-install my legit XP so I can upgrade stuff properly
b) His 'services' cost us an extra 130,000 to fix his mistakes
c) He made a bonehead mistake that should never of happened, if he'd just listened
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ohfamous



Joined: 10 Jul 2004
Location: Off the beaten path

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Idiot Computer 'Experts' (rant) and Data Recovery Reply with quote

Confused Canadian wrote:
BTW, he only charged 130,000 won for the 300 GB drive (smaller drives are cheaper), but compared to some of the other places we checked into on Saturday night, he was much cheaper. Some places were in the 350 - 400,000 won range!


Those are peanuts compared to prices back in the States! (e.g. I was quoted $800-2000 for a 40GB drive.) I couldn't afford it, but luckily I was able to get most of my data back using GetDataBack FAT/NTFS. Took a while, but it was free (by download, of course Smile )
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Idiot Computer 'Experts' (rant) and Data Recovery Reply with quote

Confused Canadian wrote:
BTW, he only charged 130,000 won for the 300 GB drive (smaller drives are cheaper), but compared to some of the other places we checked into on Saturday night, he was much cheaper. Some places were in the 350 - 400,000 won range!

on saturday at Yongsan I picked up a SATA2 500gb drive for 152,000
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Thunndarr



Joined: 30 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Idiot Computer 'Experts' (rant) and Data Recovery Reply with quote

SuperHero wrote:
Confused Canadian wrote:
BTW, he only charged 130,000 won for the 300 GB drive (smaller drives are cheaper), but compared to some of the other places we checked into on Saturday night, he was much cheaper. Some places were in the 350 - 400,000 won range!

on saturday at Yongsan I picked up a SATA2 500gb drive for 152,000


Remember, he is talking about how much it cost to recover the data on his 300 gig drive, not how much the drive cost.
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rocklee



Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Idiot Computer 'Experts' (rant) and Data Recovery Reply with quote

SuperHero wrote:
Confused Canadian wrote:
BTW, he only charged 130,000 won for the 300 GB drive (smaller drives are cheaper), but compared to some of the other places we checked into on Saturday night, he was much cheaper. Some places were in the 350 - 400,000 won range!

on saturday at Yongsan I picked up a SATA2 500gb drive for 152,000


That is excellent value. Think I might go that route for my HD upgrade. I'm running a paltry 40GB HD on my notebook.

Is it possible to buy SATA-USB drive enclosures?
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Idiot Computer 'Experts' (rant) and Data Recovery Reply with quote

rocklee wrote:
Is it possible to buy SATA-USB drive enclosures?

got mine for 30,000 since my current computer doesn't support SATA2.
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Confused Canadian



Joined: 21 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:50 am    Post subject: Re: Idiot Computer 'Experts' (rant) and Data Recovery Reply with quote

Thunndarr wrote:
SuperHero wrote:
Confused Canadian wrote:
BTW, he only charged 130,000 won for the 300 GB drive (smaller drives are cheaper), but compared to some of the other places we checked into on Saturday night, he was much cheaper. Some places were in the 350 - 400,000 won range!

on saturday at Yongsan I picked up a SATA2 500gb drive for 152,000


Remember, he is talking about how much it cost to recover the data on his 300 gig drive, not how much the drive cost.


Correct, the 130,000 was for data recovery, not purchasing a physical hard drive.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it impossible to do a bit scan yourself on your drive an gteting the data out as such?


I know i have rescued many an information from a drive that was "quickformatted", nothing more then a reset of the index, if that was the case, you could do it yourself, right?
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Confused Canadian



Joined: 21 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if I could've done this myself for a couple of reasons.

First, the data recovery guy 'rescued' the data from my hard drive on to one of his, and then copied it back on to my newly formatted drive. He didn't actually 'unformat' the drive...he just rescued the data. That being the case, I wouldn't have had enough storage space to perform the above procedure.

Secondly, before replacing the motherboard, my computer wouldn't reboot. As some have mentioned in this thread, a Windows re-install was probably necessary after installing a new mainboard. If I had been able to 'unformat' my drive and return it to it's previous state, I would've had a non-functioning computer, needing a Windows re-install. I really didn't have the time (or the patience at this point Wink ) to go through all this, hoping that I'd done things properly. I would've been too worried that I'd screw things up during the recovery process since it was my first time. I'd be worrying that any screw ups I made would've made further attempts impossible.

However, I'm sure with the proper resources, software, time, and patience, it is more than possible to save yourself the 130,000 won.
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The next time I go to a repair I'm gonna physically remove my D drive HD.

How about instead of one HD of 300GB, have 3 @ 120GB's in the box? Wouldn't that make life easier?

How do these data recovery things work? If your operating system has been newly installed is it simply a program that you run?
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