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Collider

Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject: Trying to convince the girl I love to join me *UPDATE* |
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I've got a dilemma....
*caution: if you don't like sappy stuff quit reading*
I'm going to Korea this summer, I think to Pusan. I don't want to leave the love of my life behind, and she could get a better job than me in korea with better pay, since she's an education major and has experience working with disabled kids for a few years. I'm fresh out of college.
The problem is.... the furthest she's been away from home is Kentucky. We live in Pittsburgh.
She's also never been on an airplane.
She wants to be convinced, but she's really really scared about being far away, air travel, and she's worried we'll be stuck homeless, jobless, and broke.
I've done the best I can to convince her, but if I can't get her to come with me I'm afraid she's going to go back to her old boyfriend while I'm gone because it's the path of least resistance.
I love this girl more than anything, and she loves me. She's just super scared. Can you guys possibly help me convince her that this is A) good for her, B) not scary, and C) going to be a lot of fun?
I hope I can sway her....
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Scaggs
Joined: 19 Sep 2006
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Collider

Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm sure that will help... |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Here are a few suggestions:
1. Living in Korea can be stressful for those who are used to traveling abroad. That being said, this could put a lot of stress on our girlfriend where she was take it out on you, the person responsible for bringing her here.
2. A big warning sign I read about everything she was worried about. It seems like she's trying to tell you she doesn't want to go at all, but instead of flat out saying it, she's giving you all these reasons hoping you'd get the message.
3. If she gets back with her boyfriend while your gone then it wasn't meant to be. you have to overcome adversity together. If she can't handle you being away and goes to another guy for comfort and companionship then I don't think its a good match.
I'm just writing objectively based on what you wrote. I don't know you or your girlfriend. Please don't take this the wrong way. Honestly, she's scared to come now, I think actually being here will be a tremendous culture shock to her.
Like you said, she's never traveled. Coming to Korea would be like taking someone who can't swim and dropping them off in the middle of the ocean. How is she to Asian culture? Does she like to eat different food besides the local Chinese? How is she around new people?
The main thing you got to understand is that she'll be leaving behind everything she's familiar with and her family and friends. You will be the only support that she has over here. While that may be one way to strengthen your relationship, there is also the very real possibility that her being here will destroy your relationship. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Don't leave the love of your life to come to Korea!!! Are you nuts?!! A lifelong relationship is much more important than teaching monkeys how to say 'how are you?' in the Land of the Morning Jackhammer!!
One would guess you are putting a higher priority on coming to Korea than this girl you call the love of your life. Weird. Korea ain't worth it. Go somewhere later after you get married or something. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm going to Korea this summer |
Dilemma solved. You've made up your mind that you're going.
I was in almost your position two years ago. I just wanted a year or two away to get myself back on my feet financially but my long term goal was totally to get married and have kids and domestic bliss with my white chick - whom I also believed to be the love of my life.
How much do you want or need to go to Korea? If you need it a lot, just go. If you can survive without it (which I couldn't - I'd hit rock bottom) then maybe don't bother going, at least for now? |
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Saxiif

Joined: 15 May 2003 Location: Seongnam
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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First off, don't go unless she does. There's nothing in Korea that's worth being away from a good woman for a year.
As for convincing her, there's plenty of wierd stuff in Korea but very little scary stuff. Street crime is almost non-existant, there's plenty of western stuff, etc.
What I'd recommend doing is getting a job in a place that's as urban as possible since there's more western stuff there and it'd be less of a culture shock and start off working at a public school instead of a hagwon since although public schools have their downsides the government isn't going to go bankrupt and or not pay you etc.
As far as airlines go, Korean Air is a pretty good airline, shouldn't have any problems... |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Think A-team, Mr T, and airplanes.
Seriously though, for anybody, spending time out of their country can be a fantstic, eye-opening experience. For many people, just the thought of going far from home without a support network is terrifying... but you have a built-in support network already. I think international experience for an educator can only be a good thing. Since being an educator is also about spending your life learning, rather than buliding a more and more outdated static body of knowledge and passing that on; then immersing yourself for a year in a country so different from home can be a wildly accelerated form of self-education and benefit.
I think the attitude with which you approach your experience here will make all the difference. Many people spend a year or more here and aside from a few dollars saved, have a non-experience. Others come here, and have goals, however vague. Maybe learn some of the language. Learn an art, whether martial or musical, it doesn't matter. Just do soemthing.
Above all, do some research first. Get an idea of what to expect before you get off the plane.
I hope that helps a little. |
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Collider

Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Addendum:
She wants me to go. And she wants to come. She just needs to be convinced a little bit more.
The situation is a bit more complicated than I am laying out for you, so understand that the responses about me having already made the decision to leave her, that she doesn't really love me because of her old boyfriend, and that she really doesn't want to come don't really apply.
Thanks for all the advice though, what I really need are some practical pointers to help me with my ability to lay her fears to rest.
EDIT: I'm having her make a list of the things she's scared of. |
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Scouse Mouse
Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Location: Cloud #9
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| She wants me to go. And she wants to come. She just needs to be convinced a little bit more. |
I was going to call you an arse until I read this
One of my golden rules is never try to tear a partner away from the people and things they love. I love to travel and hate to settle in one place, yet I have never risked a relationship for the sake of my desire to travel... I even stayed with one woman (and in one place) for 5 years... Within 9 months of breaking up though I was off to pastures new, and had she suggested moving away earlier I would have gone like a shot
Anyway... she needs to convice herself! If she wants to go then she needs to decide what is stopping her and either overcome them or simply stay put. Convincing her to come with you will only cause problems if she gets here and hates it...
What if you both get a job working together and she wants to do a runner but you want to stay? Either you give up your dream and run with her, or she stays and is miserable (blaming you for convincing her) - Either way I give the relationship 3 months after that!
What if she runs and you stay... then the boss blames you?
The only way she should commit to Korea is of her own free will, and not by you 'convincing' her. |
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Collider

Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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The only way she should commit to Korea is of her own free will, and not by you 'convincing' her. |
It's simply a lack of information. We just started discussing it, and I'm having trouble supplying her with confident and accurate information she will need to make the decision.
Thanks for the advice, though. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Not everyone is cut out for Korea, just to warn you. |
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jdog2050

Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Trying to convince the girl I love to join me |
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| Collider wrote: |
I've got a dilemma....
*caution: if you don't like sappy stuff quit reading*
I'm going to Korea this summer, I think to Pusan. I don't want to leave the love of my life behind, and she could get a better job than me in korea with better pay, since she's an education major and has experience working with disabled kids for a few years. I'm fresh out of college.
The problem is.... the furthest she's been away from home is Kentucky. We live in Pittsburgh.
She's also never been on an airplane.
She wants to be convinced, but she's really really scared about being far away, air travel, and she's worried we'll be stuck homeless, jobless, and broke.
I've done the best I can to convince her, but if I can't get her to come with me I'm afraid she's going to go back to her old boyfriend while I'm gone because it's the path of least resistance.
I love this girl more than anything, and she loves me. She's just super scared. Can you guys possibly help me convince her that this is A) good for her, B) not scary, and C) going to be a lot of fun?
I hope I can sway her.... |
Oh man, honestly, if she's that much of a homebody, Korea is a really dicey place to take her. On the one hand, it's the safest place on earth probably. I constantly walk around at 4 am with no fear of my well being. Also, if she enjoyed college, it can, sometimes, be a very college atmosphere, what with the late nights, drinking, etc.
HOWEVER...as for working, Korea has GOT to be one of the most stressful places. Think about your girl...does she hate stress or dig into it? Does she *really* like teaching? Does she need her work situation to be on her own terms? If your girl isn't the type to really go with the flow, you may want to rethink bringing her here.
I'd honestly shoot for thailand, vietnam, etc. But, for a first time from home, Korea is pretty easy, you've just got to really tell her the truth about the work situation.
PM me if you want a calm, no interwebz BS discussion. |
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Collider

Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Think about your girl...does she hate stress or dig into it? |
Her current job is working with disabled children who are violent and hard to handle, and she works double shifts four days a week..... 7:30 AM to 11:00 PM sometimes, and usually close to 60 hours a week.
I think she can handle stress....
And that said, I think any job will be an improvement over that! |
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jdog2050

Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Think about your girl...does she hate stress or dig into it? |
Her current job is working with disabled children who are violent and hard to handle, and she works double shifts four days a week..... 7:30 AM to 11:00 PM sometimes, and usually close to 60 hours a week.
I think she can handle stress....
And that said, I think any job will be an improvement over that! |
ahaha...ok, yeah, bring her over, that's what I say. Anything would definitely be an improvement, and she will not run into a situation like that. Mind you though, a lot of the stress doesn't come from the actual teaching, but the Korean administration that you have to deal with--pointlessly bureaucratic, stubborn, never given up to date info... |
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