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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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They will tax and tax and tax and tax. Only "right-wing" institutions like the FI will fight the systematic robbery of every Canada. Everybody else is in their pocket.
I plan on spending 4-5 years in America and then moving, and staying, in a tax haven. Many of the Caribbean states have zero income taxes. Hong Kong and Singapore are both planning of further reducing their already low income taxes.
45% is absurd. You might as well kick up tribute to Tony Soprano. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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The statement that taxes are robbery is so true yet so ignored that the ignoring of it can only be the product of relentless propaganda.
45% of my labour is stolen by a gang of thugs who use it to buy off the electorate in an attempt to maintain their jobs. |
Exactly right. This is why Ill never live in that country. The servises we get are GARBAGE. Canadian medical care is crap, why wont people realize it? All its good for is when you have a cold, you can go to the doctor for free. If you ever need major care you better go to the States. How long is the waiting list for na MRI these days anyway? When I was still in Canada people from TO were going to Buffalo because waiting lists for some treatments were so damn long.
Recently I called the Canadian embassy here. I had some questions about getting a new passport. The bitch answering my questions wanted nothing more than to hang up, and as I asked more questions I could sense she was getting annoyed. She abruptly ended the conversation before I could get all the info I wanted. Her salary comes from canadian taxes. Pisspoor service. Oh, the hours of operation of the passport section are until 11 am. Holy crap, is their job so damn difficult that they can only make it to 11 am? Cant they even make it to lunch?
Canada is a shithole. Id NEVER go back there. |
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willneverteachagain
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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Oh, the hours of operation of the passport section are until 11 am. Holy crap, is their job so damn difficult that they can only make it to 11 am? Cant they even make it to lunch?
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i thought the service there was terrible too and they only make it to 11 on certain days of the week. it's not 5 |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, the hours of operation of the passport section are until 11 am. Holy crap, is their job so damn difficult that they can only make it to 11 am? Cant they even make it to lunch?
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i thought the service there was terrible too and they only make it to 11 on certain days of the week. it's not 5 |
Lazy idiots making a lot of money. At this point in my life I want as little to do with canada as possible. Ill go in to extend my passport once every 5 years but thats it. |
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willneverteachagain
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Ill go in to extend my passport once every 5 years but thats it |
that's a scam too. u know my korean ex paid $5 to renew her passport.
i couldnt fucking believe it |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, the hours of operation of the passport section are until 11 am. Holy crap, is their job so damn difficult that they can only make it to 11 am? Cant they even make it to lunch?
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i thought the service there was terrible too and they only make it to 11 on certain days of the week. it's not 5 |
Lazy idiots making a lot of money. At this point in my life I want as little to do with canada as possible. Ill go in to extend my passport once every 5 years but thats it. |
And they charge you an arm and leg for that as well. $200 dollars or very close to it (if you don't have a guarenter or some nonsense like that) |
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willneverteachagain
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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And they charge you an arm and leg for that as well. $200 dollars or very close to it (if you don't have a guarenter or some nonsense like that)
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its more if u dont have a guarenter? |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:04 am Post subject: |
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45% and they still charge you to print out some id papers. And make you sit in line for 9.5 months before having a baby (yes, it has actually happened). And take from the poor to give to the rich. And limit our freedoms. And limit our economic opportunity.
Ultimately, the whole system keeps the government/big business boot on the throat of the neck of your average Canadian. Right from the day of graduating university it is one long process of debt and taxes until death.
It is such a pathetic life.
But here is the final kicker. You pay into CPP your whole life. Likely tens upon tens upon tens of thousands of $. And then, when you hit 65, you start to receive. BUT THEY TAX YOUR CPP BENEFITS AS INCOME. Up to 39%.
It is a scam. The modern state is just a scam. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:20 am Post subject: |
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Do Canadians pay too much in the way of taxes? Duh.
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| I have Canadian friends who constantly drone on about how wonderful their socialized health care system is. How big of an impact does that have on the tax rates? |
Not as much as some critics would like to have the world believe.
It's a major red-herring.
Countless billions are lost to bureaucratic corruption & global gov't schemes inc. the federal financing of the vast int'l debt fraud industry  |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:33 am Post subject: |
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Oh, the hours of operation of the passport section are until 11 am. Holy crap, is their job so damn difficult that they can only make it to 11 am? Cant they even make it to lunch?
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i thought the service there was terrible too and they only make it to 11 on certain days of the week. it's not 5 |
Lazy idiots making a lot of money. At this point in my life I want as little to do with canada as possible. Ill go in to extend my passport once every 5 years but thats it. |
And they charge you an arm and leg for that as well. $200 dollars or very close to it (if you don't have a guarenter or some nonsense like that) |
Yep. The guarantor has to live in the place where the office is. So in Seoul you have to know somebody from their list. I dont. Ill get charged extra because of it. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:40 am Post subject: |
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45% and they still charge you to print out some id papers. And make you sit in line for 9.5 months before having a baby (yes, it has actually happened). And take from the poor to give to the rich. And limit our freedoms. And limit our economic opportunity.
Ultimately, the whole system keeps the government/big business boot on the throat of the neck of your average Canadian. Right from the day of graduating university it is one long process of debt and taxes until death.
It is such a pathetic life.
But here is the final kicker. You pay into CPP your whole life. Likely tens upon tens upon tens of thousands of $. And then, when you hit 65, you start to receive. BUT THEY TAX YOUR CPP BENEFITS AS INCOME. Up to 39%.
It is a scam. The modern state is just a scam. |
Hah, and try collecting.
It's getting harder and harder. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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here is a shocker.
Because of some article in the Geneva convention (or some such thing) citizens who live in a country that produces or aids in the production of atomic weapons are under no obligation to pay taxes to that government.
For the LIFE of me, I cannot remember the name of the organization who has taken that on. Apparently though (as of 2001) this organization has legal representation that will defend this in your government's court.
I am from Canada. When I met my wife in vancouver, she was working at one of the "Fancy" organic grocery stores. She met a couple of individuals who carried around cards that stated that they were not obliged (and were not going) to pay tax.
These people said that they donated 40% of their income to community organizations (hospitals, shelters, etc...).
Hell if i could remember more details about that. Sorry. I DO remember researching on the net though so there must be something somewhere. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:35 am Post subject: Re: Canadians paying too much in taxes? |
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Taxes are eating into Canadians� incomes more than ever, costing the average family more than food, clothing and housing combined, suggests a new survey.
The Fraser Institute�s 2007 Canadian Consumer Tax Index indicates that though the income of the average Canadian family has increased significantly since 1961, so has the percentage paid in various taxes.
�The tax burden we face is made up of much more than just income tax,� Niels Veldhuis, the study�s co-author and director of the centre for tax studies with the think-tank, said in a statement Monday.
The average Canadian family earned $63,001 in 2006 and paid taxes equalling $28,311, almost 45 per cent of its income, while spending 35.6 per cent of its income on food, clothing and housing.View Larger Image
The average Canadian family earned $63,001 in 2006 and paid taxes equalling $28,311, almost 45 per cent of its income, while spending 35.6 per cent of its income on food, clothing and housing.
�When you add up all the taxes we have to pay to all levels of government, the average Canadian family is paying more of its income to governments in the form of taxes than they spend feeding, clothing and housing themselves.�
The average Canadian family earned $63,001 in 2006 and paid taxes equalling $28,311, almost 45 per cent of its income, while spending 35.6 per cent of its income on food, clothing and housing.
According to the institute, 45 years ago that same family earned $5,000 and paid $1,675, or 33.5 per cent of its total income, in taxes. In 1961, the average family spent 56.5 per cent of its income on the necessities of life.
The tax index adds up the various taxes paid to federal, provincial, and local governments, including direct taxes such as income taxes, sales taxes, Employment Insurance and Canadian Pension Plan contributions, and �hidden� taxes such as import duties, excise taxes on tobacco and alcohol, amusement taxes, and gas taxes.
Since 1961, the total tax bill for the average Canadian family has increased 1,590 per cent, according to the think-tank. Meanwhile, the cost of housing has increased 1,019 per cent, the cost of food 487 per cent and the cost of clothing 447 per cent, the Fraser Institute said.
�Over the past 45 years, taxes have become the single largest expenditure in an average Canadian family�s budget, with the total tax bill for a typical family increasing by 1,590 per cent since 1961,� Veldhuis said. |
http://www.canada.com
In my opinion, the tax system is beyond unjust. It is just a scam. Each level of government should take no more than 5% total. |
What article was this? |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Awesome, thanks man. |
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