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[Kimchi Cha Cha]

[The_Conservative]

[Saxiif]

[gmat]

[tareze]

Ummm. A lot of you guys are teachers no...? How many black and blues, suspicious injuries have you seen on your students? In public school, I see them every week. Bruised faces and arms mostly. Sometimes I ask and the look I get is enough for me to know that it DID NOT happen skateboarding...
I think violence is everywhere.
The US totally has a violence problem to deal with, especially urban violence.
Overall, I feel a lot safer on the streets of Seoul at night but I've been groped by a Korean before. Overall, there are more murders and violent crimes in the US (usually concentrated in certain areas of the country). It's a really conflicted nation. Look at the last elections. Most people clearly do not agree. Do not share the same values. Is Korea this at war with itself?
I was in Bangkok and took a poll of vendors (ok, maybe just a half dozen really but they all said similar things). Who is the best/worst customer to deal with? I mean, who could have more international experience than a Thai vendor and I do believe it is very telling how people treat service workers. Sooo...worst to deal/rudest people were Israelis. Best customers/friendliest, the Italians. Americans generally fell somewhere in the middle, a mixed bag of sometimes rude and sometimes friendly. I did not reveal my nationality btw. So. I don't really think Americans are the most arrogant or clueless people in the world...I think there's too many of them and live in too individualist a society to make any kind of judgement that includes all of them.

[seoulunitarian]

[billybrobby]

Man, this board is so skewed. Aside from the stuff that is outright wrong, people just like to ignore the facts that make them uncomfortable.

As an example, I was on board full of asians and somebody brought up the fact that britney spears' songwriter had written a letter to Lee Hyori's people complaining that she had completely ripped off one of his/her songs. If the thread had been brought up here, people would have laughed at how creatively bankrupt the Korean music industry is. And rightly so. But since it was brought up in a gyopo board, people just started ripping on Britney Spears and posting unflattering pictures of her. They ignored the issue at hand because it wasn't what they wanted to hear.

Likewise, in this thread, you get a lot of stuff about how crime statistics are unreliable, about how crime is everywhere, and so on. Fair enough. None of that is factually incorrect. But it's what's not being said that is interesting. What about the MURDERS? Murder stats are pretty reliable because bodies are hard to hide and people notice when people go missing. Americans murder each other at an ungodly rate and Koreans don't. This is proven. Does nobody want to talk about that?

For all of our civil rights and our silicon valley and our high achievements, Americans are generally incapable of keeping their hands off of each other throats. Whether we admit it or not, I think we tend to see ourselves as more civilized than Koreans, but is not widespread violence the definition of incivility? of barbarism?

And furthermore, I declare that...um...ah f*ck it.

[Saxiif]

[tareze]

[billybrobby]

[demi]

Koreans are clearly a more civilized people. I'll repeat....in case u didn't catch it the 1st time.

2004-USA

16,137 MURDERS
94,635 RAPES
401,326 ROBBERIES
854,911 AGGRAVATED ASSAULTS

Someone asked me to post the source. They are govt. stats. I didnt save the page and can't be bothered to look for it. U can find them very easily if u look.

Some ridiculous person ('wylie' i think) said something about me learning English and then turning around and hating USA. Aren't you Americans embarrassed by this stupidity? I'm from England. The English language is not from the USA.

I'm so surprised that a few ppl on here are actually suggesting that the USA is safer than Korea. What the hell! How long have u lived here and have u actually left ur house?

[samd]

[tareze]

Someone said the USA is safer than Korea??
And, whatevs, safer doesn't equal civilized. People are people and pretty much the same. Death by your own hand, death by anothers, it's all death.

I thought English was a Germanic language...Thor's Day, Thursday etc. and England was it's evolution ground. ?

Also, it's helpful for non-Americans to realize that many Americans think of themselves as residents of their states first and country second. Many never travel to more than a region of the country, it's huge. You are a Texan or a New Yorker or Oregonian, first and foremost, and what is going on the rest of the country is, well, far enough away to be kind of like another country.

[dogbert]

[Saxiif]