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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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 Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| nwise wrote: |
No, that is NOT the definition of Anecdotal evidence. Please closely look that ALL THE DEFINTIIONS, not just the SPECIFIC one dealingwith science. |
Ok, sweetie pie, here you go. Here are all the different definitions of "anecdotal evidence" listed at dictionary.com. I apologize for only quoting one before.
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Main Entry: anecdotal evidence
Part of Speech: n
Definition: non-scientific observations or studies, which do not provide proof but may assist research efforts
Example: This chapter provides anecdotal evidence from personal interviews, public hearings, and surveys.
Etymology: from the sense of anecdote 'unpublished narratives or details of history' |
Oh, that's right. There is only one definition in Webster's dictionary. Tard. |
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nwise
Joined: 22 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Calm down princess. Just because you're getting all bent out of shape is no reason to abuse the quote function
Thats funny!! Instead of Jackass, I'm now Princess and you tell me to calm down. Again, no game. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| nwise wrote: |
Anecdotal evidence is taking a personal observation about a phenomena and positing that a general trend can be made based on that observation. Just because you have decided that witness testimony is the same thing as anecdotal evidence doesn't make it so.
YOUR STARTING TO USE MY LINES. "doesnt' make it so"
Maybe is wrote it incorrectlly before, here is the rule. Fact Witness testimoney can be based on anecdotal evidence. Which can be used as proof. |
No, witness testimony can be based on an anecdote. That doesn't make it anecdotal evidence unless he is trying to prove a more general truth out of a specific observation. Tard. |
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nwise
Joined: 22 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Thunndarr wrote: |
| nwise wrote: |
No, that is NOT the definition of Anecdotal evidence. Please closely look that ALL THE DEFINTIIONS, not just the SPECIFIC one dealingwith science. |
Ok, sweetie pie, here you go. Here are all the different definitions of "anecdotal evidence" listed at dictionary.com. I apologize for only quoting one before.
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Main Entry: anecdotal evidence
Part of Speech: n
Definition: non-scientific observations or studies, which do not provide proof but may assist research efforts
Example: This chapter provides anecdotal evidence from personal interviews, public hearings, and surveys.
Etymology: from the sense of anecdote 'unpublished narratives or details of history' |
Oh, that's right. There is only one definition in Webster's dictionary. Tard. |
Again, you are using a SCIENTIFIC type definition.
Just answer a couple of questions.
Is a witness seeing a bank robbery anecdotal?
Can it be used as proof?
Dude, maybe you should go to law school before argueing the law.
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Thunndarr
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| nwise wrote: |
| Thats funny!! Instead of Jackass, I'm now Princess and you tell me to calm down. Again, no game. |
At least I can use the quote function properly. BTW, you still haven't proven that a testimonial is the same as anecdotal evidence. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| nwise wrote: |
| Thunndarr wrote: |
| nwise wrote: |
No, that is NOT the definition of Anecdotal evidence. Please closely look that ALL THE DEFINTIIONS, not just the SPECIFIC one dealingwith science. |
Ok, sweetie pie, here you go. Here are all the different definitions of "anecdotal evidence" listed at dictionary.com. I apologize for only quoting one before.
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Main Entry: anecdotal evidence
Part of Speech: n
Definition: non-scientific observations or studies, which do not provide proof but may assist research efforts
Example: This chapter provides anecdotal evidence from personal interviews, public hearings, and surveys.
Etymology: from the sense of anecdote 'unpublished narratives or details of history' |
Oh, that's right. There is only one definition in Webster's dictionary. Tard. |
Again, you are using a SCIENTIFIC type definition.
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Show me a different definition. That's all I'm asking. |
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nwise
Joined: 22 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Thunndarr wrote: |
| nwise wrote: |
| Thats funny!! Instead of Jackass, I'm now Princess and you tell me to calm down. Again, no game. |
At least I can use the quote function properly. BTW, you still haven't proven that a testimonial is the same as anecdotal evidence. |
Ok, your also better with computers.
I cannot "prove"to you that witness testimony is "anecdotal" if it does not make sense to you by now. But here goes: Witness testimoney is based on the witness' observation. That is using your defintion.
Don't know what more to do. |
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nwise
Joined: 22 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Definition: non-scientific observations or studies, which do not provide proof but may assist research efforts
Example: This chapter provides anecdotal evidence from personal interviews, public hearings, and surveys.
Etymology: from the sense of anecdote 'unpublished narratives or details of history'
Again, you are using a SCIENTIFIC type definition.
Show me a different definition. That's all I'm asking.
FAIR ENOUGH: However, not really needed as it states it interally.
"This chapter provides anecdotal evidence from personal interviews, public hearings, and surveys"
The problem I have with this definition is that is says anecdotal evidence cannot be used to provide proof.
Logically, a witness seeing a bank robber and testifying IS PROVIDING PROOF. However, that PROOF, is not based on science.
that is what I said a few posts ago. All evidence DOES NOT HAVE TO BE scientific. Therefore, proof CAN BE ANECDOTAL. |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| nwise wrote: |
| Thunndarr wrote: |
| nwise wrote: |
| Thats funny!! Instead of Jackass, I'm now Princess and you tell me to calm down. Again, no game. |
At least I can use the quote function properly. BTW, you still haven't proven that a testimonial is the same as anecdotal evidence. |
Ok, your also better with computers.
I cannot "prove"to you that witness testimony is "anecdotal" if it does not make sense to you by now. But here goes: Witness testimoney is based on the witness' observation. That is using your defintion.
Don't know what more to do. |
That's not what I'm asking. I know what an anecdote is. Here is your problem. You are thinking about law. You are thinking that in a court of law, when a witness relates a story, that story is an anecdote. That anecdote can then be used as evidence. However, and this is where we can tell that you ride the short bus, you make a big giant leap and claim that this is anecdotal evidence. But, it is not. Anecdotal evidence is very well-defined, and it is exactly as I've quoted here numerous times.
You don't just get to invent meanings for words you know. Most have quite accepted definitions, which we find by looking in a dictionary. Which I've done. If you can't accept the fact that what you thought was "anecdotal evidence" was merely witness testimony, and that there IS a difference, you are hopeless. |
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nwise
Joined: 22 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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That anecdote can then be used as evidence. However, and this is where we can tell that you ride the short bus, you make a big giant leap and claim that this is anecdotal evidence. But, it is not. Anecdotal evidence is very well-defined, and it is exactly as I've quoted here numerous times.
I agree. I just don't think you have been thinking about what you have been reading/writing. (really not trying to be rude) I think it will click for you.
Anecdotal means "nonscientific" and can be based on witnessing an event-like a bank robber. This witnessing of an event will then turn into testinony in court that can be used as "proof". |
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Thunndarr
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| nwise wrote: |
I agree. I just don't think you have been thinking about what you have been reading/writing. (really not trying to be rude) I think it will click for you.
Anecdotal means "nonscientific" and can be based on witnessing an event-like a bank robber. This witnessing of an event will then turn into testinony in court that can be used as "proof". |
Dude. Let me explain this to you. Very. Slowly.
We. Can't. Just. Put. Two. Words. Together. And. Make. Up. A. Definition. When. Those. Two. Words. When. Joined. Together. Are. Already. Well. Defined.
Let's take for example: I have a male chicken. I keep him in a hole in the ground. I call that hole a cockpit. I then argue with people when they say they've seen dudes climb into cockpits and fly planes. That's what you're doing. |
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nwise
Joined: 22 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, you win. I give you credit. You will fight to the bitter end.
Think about it for a couple of days and decide if you really believe that "anecdotal evidence cannot be used as proof" |
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Thunndarr
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| nwise wrote: |
Ok, you win. I give you credit. You will fight to the bitter end.
Think about it for a couple of days and decide if you really believe that "anecdotal evidence cannot be used as proof" |
Why don't you spend a few days thinking about how using an anecdote as evidence is different than using "anecdotal evidence." |
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nwise
Joined: 22 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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OK THUNDARR-had to look up the def in WIKI again. here it is.
Witness testimony is a common form of evidence in law, and law has mechanisms to test witness evidence for reliability or credibility. Legal processes for the taking and assessment of evidence are formalized. Some witness testimony could be described as anecdotal evidence, such as individual stories of harassment as part of a class action lawsui
NOTE THE LAST SENTANCE. Very similiar to my bank robber example isn't it? See, testimony can be anecdotal!!! And, I don't think that you will argue that in this circumstance, it can be used as proof.
Coup de grace? |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| nwise wrote: |
OK THUNDARR-had to look up the def in WIKI again. here it is.
Witness testimony is a common form of evidence in law, and law has mechanisms to test witness evidence for reliability or credibility. Legal processes for the taking and assessment of evidence are formalized. Some witness testimony could be described as anecdotal evidence, such as individual stories of harassment as part of a class action lawsui
NOTE THE LAST SENTANCE. Very similiar to my bank robber example isn't it? See testimony can be anecdotal!!! |
Yes, SOME witness testimony could be described as anecdotal, when, and I already addressed this, it attempts to provide evidence of a larger trend from a personal observation. (See that part about the class action lawsuit?)
Once again, I win.
Edit: And you've pretty much proved my point that you didn't know there was a difference between testimony and anecdotal evidence. Good one. |
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