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Dev
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject: Teaching Korean Children How To Hate? Who does it? |
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I got onto thinking about this topic last week when after showing a group of middle school boys the Deal Or No Deal game website, http://www.nbc.com/Deal_or_No_Deal/game/, the boys immediately commented collectively that the white & black models of the show were ugly. All I could think was how narrow-minded their thinking was, not to mention racist.
In another class, I asked the students to draw pictures to design a cd cover. One student drew a map of China sinking into the sea. He wrote in English "Sink China, Die!". I then asked him why Japan wasn't on his map of the area and he glared at me and said "That's right. Japan isn't on my map."
Some months ago, a Japanese friend emailed me some images of hand-drawn pictures done by Korean elementary school children showing Japan getting bombed by Korea and Japanese people getting killed by Koreans. All she said was how sad it was that Korean adults teach hate to their children. The injustices of Japan's wartime and colonization periods were awful and painful, but is this a justifiable way to react to them today? How can Koreans stand on a higher moral ground compared to the Japanese when they're consciously teaching their children to hate? I've done a web search to find these kinds of hate filled drawings and came up with these;
http://www.damnfunnypictures.com/html/Korean-Anti-Japanese-Art.html
Who exactly is teaching Korean children to hate the Japanese and Chinese? Is it parents, teachers or TV? |
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babtangee
Joined: 18 Dec 2004 Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:14 pm Post subject: Re: Teaching Korean Children How To Hate? Who does it? |
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Dev wrote: |
Who exactly is teaching Korean children to hate the Japanese and Chinese? Is it parents, teachers or ["and" not "or"] TV? |
Clearly you already know the answer, so what's the point of this question? |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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There is a lot of hate toward China and Japan, although I haven't ever heard comments that bad before from Korean students. If you go visit Seodaemun Prison in Seoul (which by the way is a very depressing place) you can understand some of the feelings people have toward Japan.
I'm not saying I agree with what the kid said, but there is quite a bit of animosity between China, Japan and Korea. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone got a link to all those hate pictures by elementary school kids with Gord's original captions?
It's much funnier with the captions. Just kinda sad without them. |
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Unposter
Joined: 04 Jun 2006
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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I think the Jewish people would say, "Less we never forget..." or something like that.
How should you react to a people who invaded your country, subjigated your countrymen, taught then to hate their culture and to use a different language, raped the women and killed many?
It is not just the Koreans; there are people all over Asia who still hold some serious grudges against the Japanese.
If there are still any left alive, ask people back home who lived through World War II, what they think of the Japanese and the Germans. What do people think about Nazis today? How about Communists? Russians?
Korea has found a way to tolerate the Japanese. It is not like there are politicians running around saying bomb the Japanese. And, they are starting to remove trade barriers. It is not like the kids don't read Japanese comic books or listen to J-Pop. Koreans often take on Japanese fashion and soem pop culture trends. They study the Japanese language. And, many Koreans love to visit Korea.
But I don't think many Koreans are going to forgive the Japanese any time too soon. Especially, when Japan has done little beyond lip service to address the wrongs they committed during World War II. Take a look at Germany and what they have done to make amends. It is like black and white.
Kids act out their frustrations. We could see similar pictures from traumatized children around the focus of their trauma. I would not belittle Korea's pain. It is going to take some truly great diplomats to get Korea to feel Japanese forgiveness and I don't think Japan has a right to just demand it. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Another insightful question from Dev. I wonder who taught him to hate Koreans. |
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The Hierophant

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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:04 am Post subject: |
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I'm stoked that Koreans, Chinese and Japanese generally hate each other's guts. If the NE Asian region was united in co-operation the rest of the world wouldn't stand a chance against it. Anything that weakens Asia militarily, diplomatically and economically is a boon to the Western World. So long as open war doesn't erupt, let the fools hate each other. |
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Newbie

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Unposter wrote: |
If there are still any left alive, ask people back home who lived through World War II, what they think of the Japanese and the Germans. What do people think about Nazis today? How about Communists? Russians?
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You're kidding, right?
Show me some hate for Germany or Japan in the West and I'll give you my left testy.
Jewish people don't even have a huge hate on for Germany any more.
Terrible comparison my man.
AND, you definitely don't have Western children saying anything about Germans.
Sure, we all say Nazis suck... but none of us are stupid enough to hate Germany. |
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Hater Depot
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:25 am Post subject: |
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I think the Jewish people would say, "Less we never forget..." or something like that. |
We prefer to say things which make grammatical sense. It works better that way. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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seoulunitarian

Joined: 06 Jul 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:28 am Post subject: re: |
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Unposter wrote: |
I think the Jewish people would say, "Less we never forget..." or something like that.
How should you react to a people who invaded your country, subjigated your countrymen, taught then to hate their culture and to use a different language, raped the women and killed many?
It is not just the Koreans; there are people all over Asia who still hold some serious grudges against the Japanese.
If there are still any left alive, ask people back home who lived through World War II, what they think of the Japanese and the Germans. What do people think about Nazis today? How about Communists? Russians?
Korea has found a way to tolerate the Japanese. It is not like there are politicians running around saying bomb the Japanese. And, they are starting to remove trade barriers. It is not like the kids don't read Japanese comic books or listen to J-Pop. Koreans often take on Japanese fashion and soem pop culture trends. They study the Japanese language. And, many Koreans love to visit Korea.
But I don't think many Koreans are going to forgive the Japanese any time too soon. Especially, when Japan has done little beyond lip service to address the wrongs they committed during World War II. Take a look at Germany and what they have done to make amends. It is like black and white.
Kids act out their frustrations. We could see similar pictures from traumatized children around the focus of their trauma. I would not belittle Korea's pain. It is going to take some truly great diplomats to get Korea to feel Japanese forgiveness and I don't think Japan has a right to just demand it. |
I agree that Japanese atrocities were, well, atrocities. However, they were not perpetrated on Koreans who are currently children. The only atrocity being perpetrated now is the hate being taught by authority figures.
PEace |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:30 am Post subject: |
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The Hierophant wrote: |
I'm stoked that Koreans, Chinese and Japanese generally hate each other's guts. If the NE Asian region was united in co-operation the rest of the world wouldn't stand a chance against it. Anything that weakens Asia militarily, diplomatically and economically is a boon to the Western World. So long as open war doesn't erupt, let the fools hate each other. |
TH,
I think your right about what would happen if China, Korea and Japan stood together. It's kind of sad that they have such a disfunctional relationship that they can't come together to improve their standard of living (more so for Korea and China then Japan). |
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Junior

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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:43 am Post subject: |
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Uhhh.....Do Koreans like anyone?
oh- maybe germans apparently. |
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Real Reality
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jaganath69

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