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Thunndarr

Joined: 30 Sep 2003

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:45 am Post subject:

skconqueror wrote:

Blah blah blah.

Look, there's a right way, and a wrong way, to disagree with information someone posted. You can do it politely, or you can be a douchebag. You (especially given that you posted almost the exact same information a few months ago) chose option number 2. Well done.

eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:46 am Post subject:

Just what does Peerguardian do?

skconqueror

Joined: 31 Jul 2005

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:24 am Post subject:

eamo wrote:

Just what does Peerguardian do?

PeerGuardian 2 is Phoenix Labs� premier IP blocker for Windows. PeerGuardian 2 integrates support for multiple lists, list editing, automatic updates, and blocking all of IPv4 (TCP, UDP, ICMP, etc), making it the safest and easiest way to protect your privacy on P2P.

http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/

Thunndarr wrote:

skconqueror wrote:

Blah blah blah.

I guess, that is the difference between you and I, I can do some research and change my opinion on things. Cool

Thunndarr

Joined: 30 Sep 2003

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:51 am Post subject:

skconqueror wrote:

eamo wrote:

Just what does Peerguardian do?

Thunndarr wrote:

skconqueror wrote:

Blah blah blah.

I guess, that is the difference between you and I, I can do some research and change my opinion on things. Cool

Thanks for proving my point, douchebag.

skconqueror

Joined: 31 Jul 2005

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:53 am Post subject:

Thunndarr wrote:

skconqueror wrote:

eamo wrote:

Just what does Peerguardian do?

Thunndarr wrote:

skconqueror wrote:

Blah blah blah.

I guess, that is the difference between you and I, I can do some research and change my opinion on things. Cool

Thanks for proving my point, douchebag.

No problem sweetie Embarassed

Thunndarr

Joined: 30 Sep 2003

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:57 am Post subject:

skconqueror wrote:

Thunndarr wrote:

First, download and install utorrent.

Second, go to

www.thepiratebay.org

or

www.btjunkie.com

or

www.torrentspy.com

and have yourself a look around. Plenty to choose from, just be patient, download speeds can vary.

third

be contacted by your isp for downloading pirated movies.

Anyone who suggests public trackers is not someone you should be listening to.

Quote:

skconqueror wrote:
All you need is a torrent client

(i like utorrent www.utorrent.com)

~~possibly winrar if you use private trackers~~ (to unpackage the files)

Some sites are ~~
(public ones)
1. mininova.org
2. tvtorrents.com

private sites (just ok ones)

www.ilovetorrents.com
http://torrential.kicks-ass.org/[/quote

Shut the hell up, jackass.

skconqueror

Joined: 31 Jul 2005

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:51 am Post subject:

Thunndarr wrote:

skconqueror wrote:

Thunndarr wrote:

third

be contacted by your isp for downloading pirated movies.

Anyone who suggests public trackers is not someone you should be listening to.

Quote:

Shut the hell up, jackass.

snuckums.. Embarassed

does this mean we can't be friends?

I will overlook the fact you dont know your a$$ from a hole in the ground Cool

ps. you didn't understand my explanation about how people learn and thus sometimes change their opinions based on education?

shifdog

Joined: 20 Jul 2006

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:04 am Post subject:

eamo wrote:

Just what does Peerguardian do?

It stops some organizations from connecting to your computer if you are using Bittorrent. If you're uploading/downloading a movie, it will block their IP address. That way they cannot say you were uploading a movie to them, which in turn could be used to take legal action against you.

Thunndarr

Joined: 30 Sep 2003

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject:

Quote:

In March, TorrentFreak published an article which aimed to answer the question �Are Private BitTorrent Trackers Safe?� Now, an internet piracy investigator has admitted that his organisation has successfully infiltrated private BitTorrent trackers and is actively collecting information.

Speaking with Guardian Unlimited primarily regarding piracy counter-measures, Peter Anaman, a senior internet investigator for legal firm Covington and Burling has admitted that his organisation has infiltrated unnamed private BitTorrent tracker sites and shares their method of gaining access; "Many groups didn�t start off as private. They became private because they felt threatened, so we were able to get in when they were open� he said.

Anaman indicated that his company maintains a network of contacts who help it gain access to additional private sites, although he isn�t forthcoming about what happens while they�re there, other than information gathering. With a nod towards the increasing difficulty of getting a membership on certain private BitTorrent trackers Anaman added, �Once you�re in, you never take action. You just listen�

In 2005, a successful infiltration operation masterminded by the FBI and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) led to the shutdown of the EliteTorrents BitTorrent tracker after they breached the Family Entertainment Act with their involvement in the internet pre-release of Star Wars: Episode III.

Thunndarr

Joined: 30 Sep 2003

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:35 pm Post subject:

Quote:

Private Protection?

There is a statement you'll often see on p2p forums, and in IRC channels. It usually comes in a discussion about �getting caught� or �letters been sent� and it goes something like �the safest thing is to join a private site�[image]. The other oft-proposed solution, blocklists, has been discussed before. Are private sites any safer though?

In preparing this piece, I spoke to several private site admins, and a few public tracker admins as well. The results may surprise you.

There are three main areas of concern, that the server may get seized, or that an anti-p2p agent may infiltrate the site. Seizure is a risk for all torrent trackers, or indeed all servers period, as both pirateBay, and indymedia can attest to. This has both good and bad points, in that you get the site shut down quickly, but on the downside, you REALLY have to have your ducks in a row before doing so. Additionally, you may take out the site admins, but you can often create a negative publicity backlash, especially if you take down other people's servers at the same time. 'Infiltration' is a more time consuming method, but can yield better results. This was the method used to mount evidence for the elitetorrent raid (operation d-elite) in May 2005. The third method is describable in many ways, depending on your opinion of the target of it. It can range from �surrendering to extortion� to �getting paid off� but means the server owner has been contacted by one or more groups or agencies, and has agreed to hand everything over voluntarily. There is only one real example of this so far, Lokitorrent.

Seizure

Put simply, this is the method of :

Going to the hosting company,
Gaining entry (with or without a 100% legal and valid warrant) and
Physically removing the servers from their racks,
Then taking them into custody.
Often, search warrants will also be served on any members of the site also within jurisdiction and considered 'big enough'. Once they are taken into custody, the hard drives can then be examined and entered into evidence for possible criminal proceedings. How do private sites deal with this?

Well, depending on the site, you might be safe, whereas others you might as well just hand yourself in on others. All that I spoke to stored the total ratio (including upload and download counts) email address, and username/password. Many also save a list of what torrents you've uploaded to the tracker, although that list usually only contains active torrents active.

The email address and username/password is a bad thing. It counts as 'personally identifiable information', basically meaning you can't say �it wasn't me that did it'. Odds are you probably have an email from the torrent site in your email account with your username and password. If the password matches any other password you use, or if your computer shows records of having accessed that email account, that's a link made to you that will be very hard for you to explain away.

Of course, such seizures are rare, and to date there has been no activity against individual users of the sites, but it must be pointed out that of the two public tracker admins I contacted, (Anakata of the pirateBay, and the one of the tracker suppliers to EZTV and VTV's) both said that their trackers did not save any user data at all, it was all in volatile ram, meaning when they're pulled, or even when the power goes out, the data is gone. Only the most secure of the sites I spoke to (scenetorrents) offered this for its uploaders and staff)

Infiltration

This is more the sort of thing that copyright enforcement groups are generally better at. It takes a lot of time, and manpower, which they have, unlike the understaffed and overworked criminal investigators the world over . Not to say that such departments are not capable, there really are more important ACTUAL crimes, that affect everyday people in a major way that they should be dealing with instead. At its most basic, its someone, joining a site, and collecting info. Depending on the sites membership policies, and its popularity, this can be very easy, it can be hard. Quite a few are now invite-only, so first you have to find someone with an invite, and acquire one somehow. Methods for this alone have a huge range, from �hey any1 got an invite to xyz' on a forum [image], to building up a relationship and bona fides on an IRC network such as p2p-net, or EFnet. Others, such as the British TV+radio site UKnova are so popular that when an inactive account is purged, the empty membership can be snapped up within 5 minutes.

So, is there anything stopping these people joining? Well, in a word, no. It's unlikely a member of the BSA will try and register for a site from his office computer, for instance, but there is nothing stopping someone from doing so. One site however (Bitsoup) did give a sign up warning [image], albeit an old favourite making a comeback. Once someone is on, they then have the job of collecting IP addresses from the tracker. In this regard, private trackers are inherently much less secure. On most private sites, all users can view all the usernames of peers also on the torrent with them, and sometimes their upload and download averages.

If they were to compile lists of users on a torrent with the IPs on the torrent, it might be hard to match them, but do it over a few dozen torrents, and they'll start seeing the same IP ranges appearing only when a certain username is on it � they've now identified the IP address of that user. It is impossible to do this with a public tracker, as put simply, there is no username telling anyone when a certain person is on a torrent. Add in DHT, and that people tend not to have any loyalty to a certain tracker, mean its impossible to build this sort of complete peer overview without private sites.

So, copyright enforcers may be members of your favourite private tracker, do the sites do anything about it? Again, in a word, yes. None of the sites would go into detail with me how to monitor for such users (and I doubt I'd understand them if they did � software guys have a tendency to revert to their own private language when asked a technical question) but I was told by all of them that they employed a mixture of automated, and user-based methods to detect and report suspicious activity. Basically everything from a user reporting a peer acting suspiciously on up.

Conclusion

Whilst private sites can prevent you from getting the letters and emails from your ISP or enforcement agency, They are not a perfect solution. Dealing with these sites takes time and effort, a lot of it, and that's more than many rights holders care to do right now. It is relatively easy to go to somewhere like mininova, and find a torrent for your property, then grab the IPs and send an email to the corresponding ISPs, it's much more involved to do the same with private sites. In that aspect, private sites are safer. Until the majority (or at least a large percentage) of material on a private site belongs to one rights holder, that holder is unlikely to target that site. There are exceptions, of course, depending on the material in question � the elitetorrents bust over Star Wars Ep3 showed that.

In the long term however, when and if the procedure for prosecuting file sharers through civil court becomes easier, such sites will be far more hazardous to use. The very practice of restricting usage to certain identified members is its achillies heel. Using a groups own membership and activity records against itself has been a prosecution tactic for many decades. Seizures happen, infiltrations have gone on for a while now, and some might say it's only a matter of time.

In their favour, private sites have generally much faster speeds than public torrents, meaning your window of exposure for downloading is shorter. However due to the more limited availability of the torrent, and the greater importance on ratio, you can have a vastly greater upload window, and it's uploads that are usually targeted. They also generally have content policies, meaning fakes, malware and misnamed torrents are kept to a minimum.

Overall, in some ways they're safer, in just as many ways they're a liability. To put it another way, you're safer from the more common small-time infringement notification, but a much easier target for the (much rarer) big-time operations.

Ben Jones

Thunndarr

Joined: 30 Sep 2003

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject:

Quote:

RIAA�s Grand Total: 10,037 - What are Your Odds?

May 2, 2005
Thomas Mennecke
The RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) began their lawsuit campaign against alleged music pirates in June of 2003. When the first RIAA lawsuits began rolling off the assembly line, an enormous media frenzy accompanied this event. Since that time the lawsuits have become second-rate news, as the chances of becoming another RIAA statistic is relatively low � very low.

So what exactly are your chances of being sued by the RIAA? In our news story last Wednesday, Slyck reported the number of online file-sharers was approximately 9 million users. Among other networks, this number did not account for the BitTorrent, WinMX, Manolito, Warez/Ares, Gnutella2 or SoulSeek populations. If we did include those users, we would be looking at a much larger population � perhaps as many as 15 million users. For the purposes of this article, we will split the difference and approximate there are 12 million P2P users online at any given moment.

With this number in mind, there have been 10,037 people sued by the RIAA since June of 2003. According to the web log � RIAA Watch�, 6,523 people were sued by the RIAA in 2004. What exactly does this mean?

If we divide the total population of the P2P community (~12 million individuals), by the total number of lawsuits in 2004 (6,523), we get 1,840. In other words, your chances of being sued are 1 in 1,840 for all users (regardless of network) per year. How does that stack against all other odds of dying from an intentional or non-intentional injury? According to the National Safety Council, one�s yearly chances of dying from all external causes were 1 in 1,755 in 2002.

Basically, your chances of dying from all causes of external injuries, whether from a car accident, motorcycle accident, plane crash, murder, etc was 1 in 1,755 � fairly remote odds. Although the odds were remote, they still were not as remote as specific causes of death � such as lightening strikes, suicide, �fall on and from stairs and steps� or being electrocuted. In some cases, your chances of dying from contact with a sharp object were 1 in 2.8 million.

So let us examine the chances of being sued by the RIAA a bit further. The main focus of the RIAA lawsuits have been against the FastTrack network. The effects of this campaign has crippled FastTrack, dropping its population from ~4.5 million to ~2.5 million users. From the last capture of the proportion of networks under the RIAA�s gun in November of 2003, 150 users of FastTrack were sued, compared to 5 Blubster users. Since the RIAA cannot subpoena individuals anymore, we unfortunately cannot provide a more current proportion. However, common knowledge dictates that FastTrack remains a priority, and on November 13 of 2003 it represented ~96% of those being sued.

If we were to eliminate 96% (proportion of FastTrack users) of the 6,523 sued in 2004, the odds of being sued changes dramatically. If we consider only those using a non-FastTrack P2P network, the total number of lawsuits drops to only ~261. In other words, you then have a 1 in 45,977 chance of being sued if you do not use FastTrack. Comparatively, according to the National Safety Council, you have a better chance of being killed in a transportation or non-transportational accident, death from suicide, death from assault or death by legal intervention (such as execution or being shot by a police officer.)

However this assumes the RIAA has remained consistent in which network users are being sued from. Let's say the RIAA was more diverse in which networks they pursue. If we assume half of those sued in 2004 were using FastTrack, that leaves us with 3,261 non-FastTrack related lawsuits. You would then have a 1 in 3,679 chance of being sued. That still places you above all external cases of mortality (1 in 1,755), but below all transportational accidents (1 in 5,953.) However, you would still have a better chance of being killed in an unintentional accident (1 in 2,698), then being sued by the RIAA.

Although these numbers are hardly an exact science, they do reflect the odds of being sued are little different than the risks one takes by simply living day-to-day life. But if we were to get real specific, the odds of being sued by the RIAA for non-FastTrack users (1 in 3,679) is still much greater than death by contact with a venomous snake or lizard (1 in 95 million.) So just watch yourself.

skconqueror

Joined: 31 Jul 2005

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:18 am Post subject:

You are really getting good at this copy / paste posting, you know any other tricks? Roll over? Play dead?

cbclark4

Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject:

Facts are funny things. cbc

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