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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
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 Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:18 pm Post subject: Non-native english speaking teachers applying for jobs |
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Depending on where I post my job listing, I usually can expect non-native english speakers to apply.
1. I have one lady who says that if she goes to university, then immigrationn will give her a visa that will allow her to work 20+ hours outside of the campus. Right or wrong?
2. Where can I send non-native English speakers? Especially if they have great credentials?
Finally, I also get a lot of resumes from people 50+. Does anyone know of some schools that will take teachers based upon their experience rather than looks or youth?
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Andrew |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: Re: Non-native english speaking teachers applying for jobs |
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| fiveeagles wrote: |
2. Where can I send non-native English speakers? Especially if they have great credentials?
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Credentials mean squat, most of the time. The only Koreans I know who speak English well are the ones who spent a good deal of time (year+) outside of Korea. Paper credentials just mean they're good at taking tests. I got a great grade on my Spanish Regents in high school, but I'll assure you no hablo Espanol my way out of a paper bag. |
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ChuckECheese
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: Non-native english speaking teachers applying for jobs |
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| Scotticus wrote: |
| fiveeagles wrote: |
2. Where can I send non-native English speakers? Especially if they have great credentials?
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Credentials mean squat, most of the time. The only Koreans I know who speak English well are the ones who spent a good deal of time (year+) outside of Korea. Paper credentials just mean they're good at taking tests. I got a great grade on my Spanish Regents in high school, but I'll assure you no hablo Espanol my way out of a paper bag. |
Yeah, it's either that or fake paper credentials they got it out of the cracker jack box. |
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mrsquirrel
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Thailand
Send them to Thailand. |
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TheBrain
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| Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| When you say "non-native english speakers" do you mean Koreans? |
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OiGirl
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:43 am Post subject: Re: Non-native english speaking teachers applying for jobs |
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| fiveeagles wrote: |
Depending on where I post my job listing, I usually can expect non-native english speakers to apply.
1. I have one lady who says that if she goes to university, then immigrationn will give her a visa that will allow her to work 20+ hours outside of the campus. Right or wrong?
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If she is on a D-2 visa, this is correct. Immigration will probably (99.9%) not give her a visa to teach English, however. They will certainly not give her permission to do E-2 work. I know first hand non-native English speakers who have special permission to teach English. I doubt anyone else will be able to do this. It all depends on the whim and mood of your Immigration oficer, as usual. |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
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but she will be able to work 20 hours on her d2 visa?
Thanks OI |
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OiGirl
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| After the first semester, she should be able to work 20 hours at a job related to her major. |
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hari seldon
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Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Non-native english speaking teachers applying for jobs |
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| fiveeagles wrote: |
Depending on where I post my job listing, I usually can expect non-native english speakers to apply...
Finally, I also get a lot of resumes from people 50+. Does anyone know of some schools that will take teachers based upon their experience rather than looks or youth?
Thanks,
Andrew |
If the candidate has recent, successful experience with the age group and remains enthusiastic, age shouldn't be an insurmountable deterrent in this job market. |
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Juregen
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: Non-native english speaking teachers applying for jobs |
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| OiGirl wrote: |
| fiveeagles wrote: |
Depending on where I post my job listing, I usually can expect non-native english speakers to apply.
1. I have one lady who says that if she goes to university, then immigrationn will give her a visa that will allow her to work 20+ hours outside of the campus. Right or wrong?
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If she is on a D-2 visa, this is correct. Immigration will probably (99.9%) not give her a visa to teach English, however. They will certainly not give her permission to do E-2 work. I know first hand non-native English speakers who have special permission to teach English. I doubt anyone else will be able to do this. It all depends on the whim and mood of your Immigration oficer, as usual. |
So it is possible?
I had this plan in my head to import Belgians who have Masters in English, I can get them here for half the price you guys get paid .... don't forget that taxes in Belgium are 50%, so if i pay them half of what you guys make, they earn exactly the same as they would in Belgium plus housing for free ofc.
There are enough crazy Belgium willing to do this, i jsut assumed it was legally not possible to do. (fact: Unemployement rate = 15%)
The only obstacle now is to find an inside man in Immi to do all the accepting  .
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: Non-native english speaking teachers applying for jobs |
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| fiveeagles wrote: |
Depending on where I post my job listing, I usually can expect non-native english speakers to apply.
1. I have one lady who says that if she goes to university, then immigrationn will give her a visa that will allow her to work 20+ hours outside of the campus. Right or wrong?
2. Where can I send non-native English speakers? Especially if they have great credentials?
Finally, I also get a lot of resumes from people 50+. Does anyone know of some schools that will take teachers based upon their experience rather than looks or youth?
Thanks,
Andrew |
People over 50 are teaching in foriegn countries not out of necessity. Most of that age have already achieved a level of success. The stipened offered by these contracts is meger compared to previous earnings.
Look to the motives of the differing age groups, read the book "Stages".
Respect experience, maybe when you're ove 50 someone will cherish your experience. If you can't sell experience over youthful exuberance to your hagwans then maybe you should consider selling used cars.
cbc |
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OiGirl
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Non-native english speaking teachers applying for jobs |
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| Juregen wrote: |
| OiGirl wrote: |
| fiveeagles wrote: |
Depending on where I post my job listing, I usually can expect non-native english speakers to apply.
1. I have one lady who says that if she goes to university, then immigrationn will give her a visa that will allow her to work 20+ hours outside of the campus. Right or wrong?
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If she is on a D-2 visa, this is correct. Immigration will probably (99.9%) not give her a visa to teach English, however. They will certainly not give her permission to do E-2 work. I know first hand non-native English speakers who have special permission to teach English. I doubt anyone else will be able to do this. It all depends on the whim and mood of your Immigration oficer, as usual. |
So it is possible?
I had this plan in my head to import Belgians who have Masters in English, I can get them here for half the price you guys get paid .... don't forget that taxes in Belgium are 50%, so if i pay them half of what you guys make, they earn exactly the same as they would in Belgium plus housing for free ofc.
There are enough crazy Belgium willing to do this, i jsut assumed it was legally not possible to do. (fact: Unemployement rate = 15%)
The only obstacle now is to find an inside man in Immi to do all the accepting . |
The people I know are full-time students. They do not have E-2 permission, but another kind of permission. You're going to have to grease a lot of body parts at Immigration -- but it's a hair above impossible. |
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Bibbitybop
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| I visited the "English Village" not too far from the DMZ last year. I met girls working there that were from non-native countries (one was a hot Russian) and spoke great English. You may check into their requirements. |
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Pak Yu Man
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| There are always hakwons out there that will hire these people and say they are native speakers. |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: Non-native english speaking teachers applying for jobs |
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| fiveeagles wrote: |
Depending on where I post my job listing, I usually can expect non-native english speakers to apply.
1. I have one lady who says that if she goes to university, then immigrationn will give her a visa that will allow her to work 20+ hours outside of the campus. Right or wrong?
2. Where can I send non-native English speakers? Especially if they have great credentials?
Finally, I also get a lot of resumes from people 50+. Does anyone know of some schools that will take teachers based upon their experience rather than looks or youth?
Thanks,
Andrew |
People over 50 are teaching in foriegn countries not out of necessity. Most of that age have already achieved a level of success. The stipened offered by these contracts is meger compared to previous earnings.
Look to the motives of the differing age groups, read the book "Stages".
Respect experience, maybe when you're ove 50 someone will cherish your experience. If you can't sell experience over youthful exuberance to your hagwans then maybe you should consider selling used cars.
cbc |
It's my fault that this culture is 20 to 30 crazed? Right.  |
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