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Teufelswacht



Joined: 06 Sep 2004
Location: Land Of The Not Quite Right

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:24 pm    Post subject: For Gopher Reply with quote

In the spirit of what you are posting on several threads:

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Deadly shooting at Korean Army base



Two Korean soldiers were found shot dead yesterday at an Army engineer unit in Hoengseong, Gangwon Province.

The two 21-year-old corporals identified with their surnames Lee and Han were on guard duty outside an ammunition depot, Army spokesman Col. Kang Duck-chan told reporters.

The cause of the incident was not immediately known.

The deaths were first discovered by Corporal Kwon, who arrived at the spot immediately after hearing a shot at 11:50 a.m.

Two live bullets were fired from Corporal Lee's K-1 rifle. Lee was shot in the neck and Han had a gunshot wound to the abdomen.

At the time of incident, each of them was carrying a K-1 rifle loaded with five blanks, and a 15 round clip.

The Army said it is still investigating the incident.

In June 2005, a soldier bullied by senior comrades hurled a grenade into a barracks and went on a shooting rampage at an Army guard post near the border with North Korea, killing eight colleagues and wounding two.

Suicides or weapons-related incidents ignited by mental or physical abuse of soldiers have been a problem in Korea, where every physically and mentally fit man must serve more than two years in the armed forces. The country maintains a 650,000-man strong military.

By Jin Dae-woong


https://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2007/04/21/200704210025.asp
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks!

As you know, Korean culture is quite twisted, as these repeated military incidents demonstrate.

What is wrong with Korean culture? And how about South Korea's foreign policy for good measure...?
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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stevemcgarrett



Joined: 24 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gopher:

Whoaaa, there cowboy. The PC police are out in full force. My thread on Korean cultural habits was locked tonight. Tread lightly, unless of course you want to bash Americans. Then feel free to swing away.
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happeningthang



Joined: 26 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevemcgarrett wrote:
gopher:

Whoaaa, there cowboy. The PC police are out in full force. My thread on Korean cultural habits was locked tonight. Tread lightly, unless of course you want to bash Americans. Then feel free to swing away.


The difference being Gopher's employing irony, while you're not.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, Happeningthang. For the record: I do not find "Korean culture," or any other culture, including "American culture," for that matter, "twisted" -- let alone monolithic enough to talk about as casually and simplistically as some here do.

Ours is an imperfect, violent world. We can apprehend and explain these things without resorting to the kind of childish stereotyping and scapegoating those who have commented on Virginia Tech have shown over the last week or so.
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Poemer



Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Location: Mullae

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Thank you, Happeningthang. For the record: I do not find "Korean culture," or any other culture, including "American culture," for that matter, "twisted" -- let alone monolithic enough to talk about as casually and simplistically as some here do.

Ours is an imperfect, violent world. We can apprehend and explain these things without resorting to the kind of childish stereotyping and scapegoating those who have commented on Virginia Tech have shown over the last week or so.


Well said.
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mnhnhyouh



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: The Middle Kingdom

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Thank you, Happeningthang. For the record: I do not find "Korean culture," or any other culture, including "American culture," for that matter, "twisted" -- let alone monolithic enough to talk about as casually and simplistically as some here do.

Ours is an imperfect, violent world. We can apprehend and explain these things without resorting to the kind of childish stereotyping and scapegoating those who have commented on Virginia Tech have shown over the last week or so.




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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1950s indeed......

Gopher you sound so colonial, like maybe Baldwin smokin' his pipe ..... keep on slugging away at your reading list.

DD
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ddeubel wrote:
1950s indeed......

Gopher you sound so colonial, like maybe Baldwin smokin' his pipe ..... keep on slugging away at your reading list.

DD


What are you talking about? He just said it is pointless to stereotype people. How is that being 'colonial'?

Is it because he included Americans?
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

caniff wrote:
Is it because he included Americans?


Bingo.

Now: stand by for a disclaimer and a lecture...
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stevemcgarrett



Joined: 24 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ddeubel:

Congrats. You've ddone the unthinkable: you've made being clueless into an art form.
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