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if you feel you have a drinking problem, would you know how to go about getting support?
yes
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no
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 66%  [ 26 ]
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discostar23



Joined: 22 Feb 2004
Location: getting the hell out of dodge

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:26 pm    Post subject: korea and drinking problems Reply with quote

Once again my girlfriend is doing research into foreigners and their drinking habits.

If you think you might be suffering from alcoholism would you know where to go in korea to get support?

feel free to leave any comments having to do with the poll or subject.
thanks
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stopped drinking when I saw it was turning into a problem.
Haven't drank for over a year or so now.
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If anyone in Seoul wants to go to an AA meeting, near Itaewon:

International Lutheran Church in Hannam-dong, near Hangangjin station on Subway Line at 7:30 p.m. Sunday nights. Just come out Exit 1 and go straight. The sidewalk curves to the right, then there is a bridge to walk over the street. You will see the Lutheran Church at the other end of the bridge. Come in the front door, on the right, behind the sliding screen doors.
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Scouse Mouse



Joined: 07 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a cracking bar near my appartment that always helps me with any problems I may have drinking.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:59 am    Post subject: Re: korea and drinking problems Reply with quote

discostar23 wrote:
Once again my girlfriend is doing research into foreigners and their drinking habits.

Why bother with research that has been done to death in the west. How about more research on Asian drinking habits?
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Natalie



Joined: 16 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my students say "my friend is an alcoholic" all the time as if its a good thing, with a smile on their face~ Shocked
I think some of them actually believe the term ONLY refers to the homeless
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The alcoholism rate in Korea is very high but it seems like generally it is not perceived the same way, as a big problem, like it is in western countries. Even with the medical costs and problems, the expenses of drinking, the lost productivity, drunk driving, whatever, it's just socially acceptable to get hammered often in Korea. Seems like no one hardly even blinks seeing a drunk passed out on a bench or anywhere public. In western countries this is looked down on in a big way. In Korea it's just acceptable and normal. A Korean man once suggested to me that there are not many alcoholics in Korea because people usually do not drink alone. So if it's social drinking, it's OK! Interesting theory.

The alcoholism rate among foreigners in Korea is probably quite high too. It must be.

PS> I only drink on days ending in "Y" ...
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:43 am    Post subject: Re: korea and drinking problems Reply with quote

discostar23 wrote:
Once again my girlfriend is doing research into foreigners and their drinking habits.

"Once again"? Why don't you share with us some of the findings of her previous research on this topic? Right here on this thread. It would be interesting and possibly helpful, and it's only fair. Give & take.

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If you think you might be suffering from alcoholism would you know where to go in korea to get support?

feel free to leave any comments having to do with the poll or subject.
thanks

I guess I'd go to these AA meetings if I ever thought I had a drinking problem. Like anywhere else on the planet, pretty much the only racket in town.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Natalie wrote:

I think some of them actually believe the term ONLY refers to the homeless

Many think you are alcoholic ONLY if you drink alone. As long as you do it with your buddies, you're not alcoholic.
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While Away



Joined: 03 Dec 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.aainkorea.org/
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discostar23



Joined: 22 Feb 2004
Location: getting the hell out of dodge

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: Re: korea and drinking problems Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:
discostar23 wrote:
Once again my girlfriend is doing research into foreigners and their drinking habits.

"Once again"? Why don't you share with us some of the findings of her previous research on this topic? Right here on this thread. It would be interesting and possibly helpful, and it's only fair. Give & take.


http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=82441&highlight=

here is the basic topic. She has to write a research proposal about a problem in her community. So she decided to look at increased alcoholism in Korea. She thought about doing Asian drinking habits but she figured her community is really the foreigner community. From going out on a saturday night or hearing your co-workers stories on a monday morning it is pretty obvious drinking is a big part of our community.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do worry about myself sometimes. I know I drink too much. I do drink alone, but only because I spend every evening online with my family. I have noticed that I am drinking more than before. I used to have a hard and fast rule. Only on non-school nights (fri-sat). But I have noticed that once or twice a week in addition to fri-sat, I polish off a 1500 during the evening. Being where I am, there is no way for me to attend any kind of meeting. I don't know. Maybe I do have a problem. I would like to think that I don't, but I wonder sometimes...
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poet 13

I stopped drinking after I found myself getting repeatedly wasted at home alone. It was Friday and Saturday nights and I would be waiting for the missus to finish at the market.

A couple of Chang's here and there led to another few there and here, before I knew it I would have polished of eight big bottles of Chang and be fairly well pissed. Missus would get back have a couple of drinks with her then go to bed.

Going out to my local bar/restaurant which was 300m from my house I would take my small bike down get shit faced and ride it back.

Biker meetings would normally end up at a friends bar 15km out of town. Ride home steaming and fast.

I realised after a few years of this that it was a problem. It wasn't just one but an accumulative one and there was only one thing to do and that was to stop.

It was harder than stopping smoking.
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patongpanda



Joined: 06 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah! I have a drinking problem! The beer in Korea is so crappy!
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Young FRANKenstein wrote:
Natalie wrote:

I think some of them actually believe the term ONLY refers to the homeless

Many think you are alcoholic ONLY if you drink alone. As long as you do it with your buddies, you're not alcoholic.


Well that's obviously not right. A person who drinks heavily with his friends 5 times per week has a worse problem with alcohol than a guy who gets sloshed by himself once per month.

The criteria for alcoholism is a chemical dependance to alcohol whereby withdrawal symptoms occur if drinking is discontinued. But that's actually a very strict definition. Really, people become psychologically dependent on booze and if we follow the "does x regularly even though s/he knows the effects are negative", alcies are quite numerous.

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I only drink at weekends and this has been the case for some time (trying to do one night per week at the moment, but it's not easy as relations with fellow Westerners revolve around pub quizes and drinking as a social thing) and for the first time in many months, I drank on Sunday night and had a hangover on Monday.

I do not have the potential to be an alcoholic because I love being straightheaded so much. A good night's sleep, exercise, keeping your mind occupied, are the best things EVER! During the week, unless a special occasion like when I visited The Cage that time on Wednesday (I had no school the next morning - a total rarity) I have no interest in drinking ANY alcohol because I'm occupied and busy. Mind you, I also don't stand a chance of quitting completely because I enjoy a drink at weekend and by the time Friday comes I just CRAVE getting sloshed, be it with friends, solo or with a bird.
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