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OculisOrbis

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject: Here, the teacher comes.... |
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Is that correct or no?
My student asked me to explain if it was ok to directly replace the pronoun in Here he comes." to "Here the teacher comes."
I showed her:
Here comes the teacher.
The teacher comes here.
and maybe Here, the teacher comes.
My reasoning was this:
The dog ran quickly.
The dog quickly ran.
Quickly, the dog ran.
The adverb 'quickly' gives additional info. In her example "here" is also additional info so is it possible to place "here' in her sentences the same way an adverb can be placed in a sentence?
I think her way just feels awkward, but I also see her point. I don't know.
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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and maybe Here, the teacher comes.
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Now, this sentence is not correct! |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Many people say "Here the teacher comes" when the a teacher is arriving. Grammatically correct? I dunno. Used a lot in the USA? For sure.
You can also think about different situations where this is correct and the meaning of "comes" is changed, but hopefully you are using these with attractive, adult students. |
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wylies99

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Used a lot in the USA? For sure |
Huh? Not REALLY.
The teacher's coming down the hall. Yes.  |
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Bibbitybop

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Student: "Hide the dope, man, here the teacher comes!"
It probably differs from region to region, but I heard it quite a bit. |
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wylies99

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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I'm surprised the OP even has to ask. |
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blackjack

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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| maybe when explaining a book, play or prank . (look) here, the teacher comes in and ... |
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wylies99

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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Student: "Hide the dope, man, here the teacher comes!"
It probably differs from region to region, but I heard it quite a bit. |
Cheech and Chong?  |
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supernaut
Joined: 04 Jan 2007 Location: Nova Scotia
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Bibbitybop wrote: |
Student: "Hide the dope, man, here the teacher comes!"
It probably differs from region to region, but I heard it quite a bit. |
That sounds weird to me, i've heard, maybe even used.
"Hide the dope, here comes the teacher"
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"Hide the dope here, the teacher is coming." |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:09 am Post subject: |
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| supernaut wrote: |
| Bibbitybop wrote: |
Student: "Hide the dope, man, here the teacher comes!"
It probably differs from region to region, but I heard it quite a bit. |
That sounds weird to me, i've heard, maybe even used.
"Hide the dope, here comes the teacher"
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"Hide the dope here, the teacher is coming." |
I agree with you, it doesn't sound right, esp. not when compared to your examples. I was simply saying it is sometimes used, even if grammatically incorrect. |
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Jizzo T. Clown

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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:16 am Post subject: |
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"Here he comes" doesn't seem grammatically correct anyway because we don't use the simple present to talk about things that are happening now (or do we?)... If we changed the word order to "He comes here" (same sentence pattern: subject-intransitive verb), we would assume that the teacher frequents this place.
"The teacher is coming!" sounds much more appropriate. When I encounter a situation like this, I just say that it's an "idiomatic expression" or chalk it up to "usage."  |
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