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OculisOrbis



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:26 pm    Post subject: Here, the teacher comes.... Reply with quote

Is that correct or no?

My student asked me to explain if it was ok to directly replace the pronoun in Here he comes." to "Here the teacher comes."

I showed her:

Here comes the teacher.
The teacher comes here.
and maybe Here, the teacher comes.

My reasoning was this:

The dog ran quickly.
The dog quickly ran.
Quickly, the dog ran.

The adverb 'quickly' gives additional info. In her example "here" is also additional info so is it possible to place "here' in her sentences the same way an adverb can be placed in a sentence?

I think her way just feels awkward, but I also see her point. I don't know.

Thanks.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and maybe Here, the teacher comes.


Now, this sentence is not correct!
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many people say "Here the teacher comes" when the a teacher is arriving. Grammatically correct? I dunno. Used a lot in the USA? For sure.

You can also think about different situations where this is correct and the meaning of "comes" is changed, but hopefully you are using these with attractive, adult students.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Used a lot in the USA? For sure


Huh? Not REALLY.

The teacher's coming down the hall. Yes. Wink
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Student: "Hide the dope, man, here the teacher comes!"

It probably differs from region to region, but I heard it quite a bit.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

I'm surprised the OP even has to ask.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe when explaining a book, play or prank . (look) here, the teacher comes in and ...
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Student: "Hide the dope, man, here the teacher comes!"

It probably differs from region to region, but I heard it quite a bit.


Cheech and Chong? Laughing
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supernaut



Joined: 04 Jan 2007
Location: Nova Scotia

PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
Student: "Hide the dope, man, here the teacher comes!"

It probably differs from region to region, but I heard it quite a bit.


That sounds weird to me, i've heard, maybe even used.

"Hide the dope, here comes the teacher"
or
"Hide the dope here, the teacher is coming."
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

supernaut wrote:
Bibbitybop wrote:
Student: "Hide the dope, man, here the teacher comes!"

It probably differs from region to region, but I heard it quite a bit.


That sounds weird to me, i've heard, maybe even used.

"Hide the dope, here comes the teacher"
or
"Hide the dope here, the teacher is coming."


I agree with you, it doesn't sound right, esp. not when compared to your examples. I was simply saying it is sometimes used, even if grammatically incorrect.
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Jizzo T. Clown



Joined: 27 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Here he comes" doesn't seem grammatically correct anyway because we don't use the simple present to talk about things that are happening now (or do we?)... Confused If we changed the word order to "He comes here" (same sentence pattern: subject-intransitive verb), we would assume that the teacher frequents this place.

"The teacher is coming!" sounds much more appropriate. When I encounter a situation like this, I just say that it's an "idiomatic expression" or chalk it up to "usage." Wink
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