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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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 Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:33 am Post subject: |
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"Canada" lacked the biogeographical prerequisites for Southern-style slavery and that is what decisively accounts for its different history with respect to slavery, Hollywood -- not the moral superiority that today's Canadian nationals smugly claim existed primordially in their beloved patria.
Canadians are just products of a different historical trajectory, then. They inhabit, and live and die in a much smaller country that happens to carry one hell of a chip on its shoulder when it comes to Americans...and the Cho incident, the root cause of this thread, unfortunately, has brought this chip-on-the-shoulder, sometimes latent sometimes manifest, to the surface yet again.
"You" are not better than "us," Hollywood. Just different. That hardly qualifies "you" for the self-righteous and harsh judgments we often see Canadians pronouncing on this board.
In fact, "you" have a whole host of your own problems to deal with... |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| "Canada" lacked the biogeographical prerequisites for Southern-style slavery and that is what decisively accounts for its different history with respect to slavery, Hollywood -- not the moral superiority that today's Canadian nationals smugly claim existed primordially in their beloved patria. |
The "biogeographical prerequisites"? And what would those be? I guess then that Tsarist Russia had no serfs because Russia, being geographically similar to Canada, could not support slavery.
Whatever, I never said that.
| Gopher wrote: |
Canadians are just products of a different historical trajectory, then. They inhabit, and live and die in a much smaller country that happens to carry one hell of a chip on its shoulder when it comes to Americans...and the Cho incident, the root cause of this thread, unfortunately, has brought this chip-on-the-shoulder, sometimes latent sometimes manifest, to the surface yet again.
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Canada is a much larger country than the US...and, ironically, you're rant reveals that you're the one who has a chip on his shoulder.
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"You" are not better than "us," Hollywood. Just different. That hardly qualifies "you" for the self-righteous and harsh judgments we often see Canadians pronouncing on this board.
In fact, "you" have a whole host of your own problems to deal with... |
I never alluded to that. The fact that you mention it, though, suggests that you're the one who's got quite a few issues to deal with.
Had I been self-righteous, I would not have mentioned that Canada had slaves. Face it, you're argument was wrong (still is, for that matter).
Anyways, nice ad hominem attacks. Really lends a lot of weight to your arguments. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hollywood, America is ten times the size of Canada in population. And let us not even get into GNP.
Your comparing Canada and Russia is simplistic, to say the least.
In any case, remember this...?
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| Slavery never existed in Canada? Wrong. We just got rid of it before you did. |
This is the smug self-righteousness I referred to. That and your lame comparison of Toronto on the one hand, and New York City and Washington, D.C. on the other.
However that may be, why is it, Hollywood, that Canada "got rid" of slavery before and with much more ease than America? Let us put this matter to rest. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
| Gar, Bargle! Liberals invented serial killers in the 1960s! |
Of couse! Look here:
We're seeing a frightening spike in the godless, no-religion-involved-in-guiding-society-at-all prohibition era where liberals had taken god and stuck him in the back... er... wait. This is the opposite of true.
Anyway, society is just as godless as ever and the crime stats have shown a massive drop during the glorious blow-job-loving years of Clinton.
According to this page the recent spikes in American homicides tend to correlate with Neo-cons being in the White House.
But I'm willing to give them pro-NRA, bible-loving conservative the benefit of the doubt over this. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:58 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
Hollywood, America is ten times the size of Canada in population. And let us not even get into GNP.
Your comparing Canada and Russia is simplistic, to say the least.
In any case, remember this...?
| Hollywood Action wrote: |
| Slavery never existed in Canada? Wrong. We just got rid of it before you did. |
This is the smug self-righteousness I referred to. That and your lame comparison of Toronto on the one hand, and New York City and Washington, D.C. on the other.
However that may be, why is it, Hollywood, that Canada "got rid" of slavery before and with much more ease than America? Let us put this matter to rest. |
Smug? I was correcting your mistake, that's all. I would have reason to be smug if Canada never had slavery, but it did. Canada had slavery and we got rid of it before you did. That's it. How is that supposed to be a smug comment? How could you perceive it as being so? Heck, I even went through the trouble of adding the word 'just' to signal that I was mearily stating an historical fact and that I had no intention of being 'smug'. So, really, spare me the transparent attempts at putting a certain meaning to my words just so you can satisfy your own prejudices against Canadians. Really, how big is that chip on your shoulder? |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:05 am Post subject: |
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| Hollywood Action wrote: |
| Slavery never existed in Canada? Wrong. We just got rid of it before you did. |
Who is "we". Are you part of we? Am I part of we? Do you even know who the "we" was that ended slavery? If you were being honest, and not aggrandizing, you would have said "they" and not included yourself in something that you have fully no right to take credit for.
Are you taking credit for something you never did? Like Koreans and their 5000 years of history nonsense?
Why don't you tell him about Basketball? |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| BJWD wrote: |
| Hollywood Action wrote: |
| Slavery never existed in Canada? Wrong. We just got rid of it before you did. |
Who is "we". Are you part of we? Am I part of we? Do you even know who the "we" was that ended slavery? If you were being honest, and not aggrandizing, you would have said "they" and not included yourself in something that you have fully no right to take credit for.
Are you taking credit for something you never did? Like Koreans and their 5000 years of history nonsense?
Why don't you tell him about Basketball? |
Whatever. It's a figure of speech.
What, that some guy from Canada invented it in the US, thus making it an American sport as it was first played by Americans?
Sorry, but you're barking up the wrong tree. |
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