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Rain: Time Magazine's "Most Influential Person of the Y
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Young FRANKenstein wrote:
mindmetoo wrote:
kurva anjad wrote:
This reminds me of when Hungary put a new bridge up for naming through online poll. Major bridge over Danube. Steven Colbert lobbied and won after it was found out Chuck Norris was previously leading. Type Colbert Bridge Hungary in YouTube for several hilarious segments.

Hungary didn't name it after him, but there were some funny solutions if you check out all the clips.


McGill university had students vote for the new name for their student center and students overwhelmingly voted for William Shatner (a McGill grad). It was named so.

Didn't they also have a vote (don't know how official it was) to name the new Canadian Territory. While "Nunavut" finally got the nod, I hear "Bob" was in the running for quite a while.


That would sound like a Canadian sense of humor. A bit like the Brits (?) who were putting down "Jedi" as their religion on the census (under the mistaken belief this would require the government to add such a category in the next census).
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babtangee



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rain's back up to #4. Those damn K netizens are unstoppable! C'mon people: at least act like you give a damn!
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

babtangee wrote:
Rain's back up to #4. Those damn K netizens are unstoppable! C'mon people: at least act like you give a damn!


Put your backs into it now!
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can magazines jump the shark, because name Rain most influential person would be it.
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

riley wrote:
Why don't we all agree to pick some no name and see if we can push them up high enough to block Rain? It might be fun to see if we have an impact. I say this because Rain has like nearly 250,000 votes already compared to some of them, so our impact may be negligible.


I've been giving quite a few votes to the president of Nigeria (only about 800 votes total) to see if I could raise his ratings by one percentage point. That accomplished nothing but wasting 2 minutes of my time, apparently.

Vote 100 Colbert, 1 Bi.


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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

princess wrote:
Rain is hot!!!!!!!!!!!!!! His music is good too.


I hope you're being sarcastic.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding the Thai/Korean tug of war, ever check out Youtube and the comments under the Free Hugs videos that are done in Korea? Ignoring the current spate of "you Koreans are all mass murderers" comments, there's a bunch of highly anti-Korean messages being posted by Thais and Japanese. Okay the Japanese I can understand. The Koreans probably go kick their wasp nests. But the Thais? What's the issue there?

Check, for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT5DsXkzzPA

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Wunpawng (1 hour ago) marked as spam
Nobody want to receive your damned hug! Do you know why? Because you guys are unbearably stink! Tip, please make sure you take deep shower before your damned hug campaign!


If one visits Wunpawng's profile, you see this person is from Thailand.

There was a show on Korean TV called something like "Ugly Koreans". For those of you who think Korean TV never investigates Korean males acting badly abroad and only dotes on bad Korean women making porn this show is evidence it does take the male of the species to task. Anyway, the show was about Koreans who go to the Philippines to study english. The first thing they do is hit on the Korean women in their class. When that fails, they all pick up filipina girlfriends. (Don't we all, eventually?) They knock 'em up and then abandon them. The show interviewed a bunch of these women. I guess maybe Korean males are getting a bit of a reputation abroad. (My ex-HK girlfriend noted once when her and her gal pals would visit Cebu, the Korean guys were always on the make in the most aggressive way and they tried to avoid them as much as possible.) The local women are rather seduced by the fiction in Korean dramas and videos of Korean men are all romantic and sincere gentlemen when it turns out they're horn dogs like the rest of us. To wit, the Korean wave is opening up a lot of opportunities in SE Asia and a lot of Korean guys are finding they just have to put on a tasseled pink shirt to plug those holes.
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Koreans are so eager that one of the tribe wins this silly contest (and I think that's just as likely as these all these votes coming from die-hard Rain fans), then I say give them Kim Jong-il. The missle tests, the nuke tests, the chicanery & buffoonery -- ol' Jong-il이 was one damn influential Korean last year. And yet he's not even on the list, is he? Confused

mindmetoo wrote:
Regarding the Thai/Korean tug of war, ever check out Youtube and the comments under the Free Hugs videos that are done in Korea? Ignoring the current spate of "you Koreans are all mass murderers" comments, there's a bunch of highly anti-Korean messages being posted by Thais and Japanese. Okay the Japanese I can understand. The Koreans probably go kick their wasp nests. But the Thais? What's the issue there?

There are probably scads of posters on Dave's who bop back & forth between here and there, so you're best off hearing it from them than from my second-hand, second-rate anecdotes... but here they are anyway.

A good friend relocated from Britain to Thailand around the same time I arrived in Korea, i.e., back in the Late Bronze Age. His company is involved in construction/engineering projects around Asia, and he ended up working here in Korea for two years. He has young school-aged children and felt it best they stay put with mom in Thailand, so he racked up a lot of mileage points during those two years.

He also made a few trips to the South Korean Embassy in Bangkok, with the normal scenario being:

-- hire cab
-- instruct cabbie to take him to South Korean Embassy
-- get asked by incredulous cabbie why he wants to go to Korea
-- get told by cabbie about rude, belligerent Korean passengers he's had
-- arrive at embassy and receive the most brusque & imperious treatment he's ever experienced in all his years in Thailand from the girl(s?) at the visa counter

The last time he said it was so bad that as he was leaving the place, he stopped, turned around and walked back to the girl at the visa window and said...

Friend: (in Thai) Pardon me, miss. Are you a Korean?
Rude Chick: (in Thai) No, I'm not.
Friend: Well then why don't you stop acting like one.
Rude Chick: Shocked, Embarassed... Crying or Very sad (or faces to that effect)

Now that might not sound like a big deal, but you have to trust me, coming from him that's nothing short of astounding. He's no jaded cynic, no inveterate Korea-hater by any stretch. In fact, he's the kindest, most easygoing, most unflappable of nearly anyone I know. I often think that if Jesus & Buddha were here today, they'd been joining in some of these K-bashing rants on Dave's. Of course they'd probably use socks, though.
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flakfizer



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
Regarding the Thai/Korean tug of war, ever check out Youtube and the comments under the Free Hugs videos that are done in Korea? Ignoring the current spate of "you Koreans are all mass murderers" comments, there's a bunch of highly anti-Korean messages being posted by Thais and Japanese. Okay the Japanese I can understand. The Koreans probably go kick their wasp nests. But the Thais? What's the issue there?

Check, for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT5DsXkzzPA

Quote:
Wunpawng (1 hour ago) marked as spam
Nobody want to receive your damned hug! Do you know why? Because you guys are unbearably stink! Tip, please make sure you take deep shower before your damned hug campaign!


If one visits Wunpawng's profile, you see this person is from Thailand.

There was a show on Korean TV called something like "Ugly Koreans". For those of you who think Korean TV never investigates Korean males acting badly abroad and only dotes on bad Korean women making porn this show is evidence it does take the male of the species to task. Anyway, the show was about Koreans who go to the Philippines to study english. The first thing they do is hit on the Korean women in their class. When that fails, they all pick up filipina girlfriends. (Don't we all, eventually?) They knock 'em up and then abandon them. The show interviewed a bunch of these women. I guess maybe Korean males are getting a bit of a reputation abroad. (My ex-HK girlfriend noted once when her and her gal pals would visit Cebu, the Korean guys were always on the make in the most aggressive way and they tried to avoid them as much as possible.) The local women are rather seduced by the fiction in Korean dramas and videos of Korean men are all romantic and sincere gentlemen when it turns out they're horn dogs like the rest of us. To wit, the Korean wave is opening up a lot of opportunities in SE Asia and a lot of Korean guys are finding they just have to put on a tasseled pink shirt to plug those holes.

Yeah, Koreans are making a pretty bad rep for themselves in Asia these days. I think part of the problem is that Koreans often tend to take rules as mere suggestions. I mean, they do that here too and it's mostly accepted. In other countries, not so much. Once when I was in Thailand with my wife (Korean) I saw a sign on the wall of one of temples that was written in Korean only. I asked my wife and she said that the sign said not to sit on the wall and that if you did and took a photo, your camera would be confiscated. I guess enough Koreans and had figured it was worth breaking a rule and merely being scolded as long as they came away with a cool photo, so the sign threatened to take the photo too. It also seems that other Asian countries are picking up on some Koreans' attitude of superiority toward poorer Asian countries.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flakfizer wrote:
It also seems that other Asian countries are picking up on some Koreans' attitude of superiority toward poorer Asian countries.


Yeah I think it's a confluence of factors. It's probably akin to the low reputation French Canadians get in Florida and New England.

You've got a bunch of nouveau riche Koreans abroad in developing countries and

a) They're hepped up on the nobelesse/modern yang ban concept Woori Financial has sold them on

b) Not realizing service people are accorded a level of respect outside of Korea. In Korea, you bark out your demands and that's that. I've even had some of the nicest Korean people in the world wonder why I treat the service staff at my regular Starbucks with kindness (I bring them gifts when I'm abroad, if the milk cannisters are empty, I get them to refill them and then I walk them over to the milk bar myself, saving them a trip). In Thailand (the land of smiles) I'm sure they're used to more gracious interactions. While there are certainly rude western tourists, there are also plenty that come to Thailand because they like the food and the culture and treat the locals as something more than a future Cyworld photo brag. How many Koreans do you know that go to Thailand but have nothing but complaints about Thai food ("it's too greasy!"). Thais see a lot of very gracious and appreciative Western tourists.

c) Koreans see Samsung and LG ads, the kids are listening to Rain, DVDs of Korean dramas are for sale... They ooze with national pride and arrogance.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JongnoGuru wrote:

-- arrive at embassy and receive the most brusque & imperious treatment he's ever experienced in all his years in Thailand from the girl(s?) at the visa counter


Didn't some South Korean who escaped the North after being a POW since the "War of American Aggression" make it to a Korean consulate seeking repatriation and he got shown the door by the brusque and imperious staff? And then there was the whole embarrassment with the poor Korean guy who got his head cut off. An American news agency had to inform them one of their own was kidnapped. The Korean mission in Iraq at first denied everything but then later admitted someone or another contacted them claiming they had one of their Korean brothers and were going to cut the guy's head off.
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
there are also plenty that come to Thailand because they like the food and the culture and treat the locals as something more than a future Cyworld photo brag. How many Koreans do you know that go to Thailand but have nothing but complaints about Thai food ("it's too greasy!").

Koreans don't go to Thailand because they like the food or culture. They go to brag about the stamp in their passport.

The complaint about the food is not that it's greasy. it's that it's too spicy. Rolling Eyes Yet they rag on us for "not being able to" eat kimchi. (can't put their head around the fact that I don't WANT TO eat the damned stuff). They don't leave the comfort of their Korean hotel and Korean restaurants while they're there anyway.
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babtangee



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

None of this same old-same old Korea critique (seriously, when was the last time a thread turned into a discussion about Koreans' borish behaviour in South-East Asia? Wednesday?), none of it changes the fact that Rain is now at number 3 on Time's Most Influential Person of the Year chart. This is ridiculous. And you people aren't doing enough to stop it! Bah!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Rain: Time Magazine's "Most Influential Person of t Reply with quote

Hahaha, it's ridiculous. Funnily, the vote count is 361,000 at the moment, which actually doesn't seem very high. Rain got a legion of loyal(or stalkish), organized, well-informed domestic fan girls who would gladly vote again and again plus some non-Korean oversea fans. It's a little too much to talk about K-netizens in general though. There are many antis who'd get embarrassed and most of guys or older people don't seem to care about such stuff at all.
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Troll_Bait



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rain is at number two!
http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/time100walkup/article/0,28804,1611030_1612457,00.html
I can't believe that this guy, who copies everything from other artists, and produces nothing original, is Number Two on Time magazine's most influential list.

P.S. Sorry about the above gotthisguitar style.
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