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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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 Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Kuros"]Endo is essentially right.
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| America's support of MEK is hypocritical. It also hurts us, as MEK targets the very same liberal and open Iranian population we purportedly wish to woo. |
For the record
MEK is not being supported they are being ignored. The US is supporting Balluchi tribesman in South East Iran. But not against Iran (wink - wink) .
It is hyprocritical a little but only if someone holds the US to a very high standard.
It is still not comparable w/ what Iran does for many reasons. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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Joo, you have to demonstrate why co-operation with the MEK is beneficial.
Similarly, proponents of water-boarding and torture have to demonstrate how torture is effective (they can't).
The ends can only justify the means if the end result is beneficial. Do you think there would be so much outrage over Iraq in America if the mission were really accomplished four years ago from May 1st?
Holding America to a high standard is not what I am doing. I am questioning the efficacy of a questionable policy. What does the US get from the MEK? Or have we forgotten the results of our over-reliance on Iraqi ex-patriot intelligence in the lead up to the war? |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Ignored Joo Rip Gwa Rhee?
Ignored would suggest that there is no contact between the MEK and the American military.
I would use the word "tolerated" with private contacts between the two sides.
Either way, a CIA field officer in Iraq must have a fascinating job. Dangerous as hell, but intreaging nonetheless. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo, you have to demonstrate why co-operation with the MEK is beneficial. |
I haven't made up my mind but Iran does bad stuff to the US one could make a strong case that the US is just giving Iran back what it gives and Iran started it.
I don't know if the US is obligated to turn those guys over to Iran - a nation that has conducted a low level war against the US for a long time.
As I know the US has pretty much put the group out of comission.
Anyway for the record the ones conduting attacks are non persian Ballui Tribesman not the MEK.
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Similarly, proponents of water-boarding and torture have to demonstrate how torture is effective (they can't).
The ends can only justify the means if the end result is beneficial. Do you think there would be so much outrage over Iraq in America if the mission were really accomplished four years ago from May 1st? |
No , if the war in Iraq went better everyone including the democrats who voted for it would be proudly be declaring they were for it all along.
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| Holding America to a high standard is not what I am doing. I am questioning the efficacy of a questionable policy. What does the US get from the MEK? Or have we forgotten the results of our over-reliance on Iraqi ex-patriot intelligence in the lead up to the war? |
Ok I understand.
If the groups the US supported were more powerful it might be worth doing, but they are not powerful on the scale of Hizzbollah they might cause more harm than good. So I agree in principle with what you are saying.
However there are many who would oppose the policy even if the groups were very effective against Iran. Were that the case then someone would be holding the US to a high standard. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Ignored Joo Rip Gwa Rhee?
Ignored would suggest that there is no contact between the MEK and the American military.
I would use the word "tolerated" with private contacts between the two sides.
Either way, a CIA field officer in Iraq must have a fascinating job. Dangerous as hell, but intreaging nonetheless. |
I stand corrected your choice of words is much better. |
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