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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| yesman wrote: |
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
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| Bush's miltiary service is better than just about any of the democrats. |
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Really how long was
Hillary in the US military?
Obama?
Edwards? |
and Bush?
Cheney?
Wolfowitz?
Rumsfeld?
Rove?
Armitage?
Libby?
Perle?
Kristol?
None of the three you mentioned above has ever instigated a war. These chickenhawks, these proponents of war...where have they seen it?
And Bush's "military service"? If you call going AWOL and dereliction of duty "service", then your head needs service. |
Rumseldfd was also in the military.
So was Armatage.
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| Richard Armitage: Navy, three tours in Vietnam |
Can you Bush was AWOL that was debunked.
You were wrong 3x. Why not check your facts? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo, rather than hijacking every thread and filling it with stupid, meaningless posts that basically shut them down - that seems to be your intent - why don't you at least attempt to post on topic? The topic is the ass-kicking Olbermann laid down. Watch the video, respond to the content. |
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| Which party held the presidency on September 11th, 2001, Mr. Giuliani? |
Which party held the presidency when the attack was being planned?
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| Which party held the mayoralty of New York on that date, Mr. Giuliani? |
and that means what?
I mean the jets did not take off from NY
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| Which party assured New Yorkers that the air was safe, and the remains of the dead, recovered - and not being used to fill pot-holes, Mr. Giuliani? |
Have no info on this
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| Which party wanted what the terrorists wanted - the postponement elections - and to whose personal advantage would that have redounded, Mr. Giuliani? |
I don't know.
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| Which mayor of New York was elected eight months after the first attack on the World Trade Center, yet did not emphasize counter-terror in the same city for the next eight years, Mr. Giuliani? |
How would have counter terror stopped the jets since they took off from Boston not NY.
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| Which party had proposed to turn over the Department of Homeland Security to Bernard Kerik, Mr. Giuliani? |
Would he have done a good job?
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| Who wanted to ignore and hide Kerik's Organized Crime allegations, Mr. Giuliani? |
see above
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Who personally argued to the White House that Kerik need not be vetted, Mr. Giuliani? |
see above
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| Which party rode roughshod over Americans' rights while braying that it was actually protecting them, Mr. Giuliani? |
See the consitution and the right to life.
EFL trainer / Olberman tell us how the Patriot act has taken away any of your rights?
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| Which party took this country into the most utterly backwards, utterly counter-productive, utterly ruinous war in our history, Mr. Giuliani? |
The war against terror needs to be done.
I know Olberman would like to pretend that Bathist Khomenist and Bin Laden followers are not out to get the US. However that doesn't make it a fact.
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| Which party has been in office as more Americans were killed in the pointless fields of Iraq, than were killed in the consuming nightmare of 9/11, Mr. Giuliani? |
Olberman's message accept the war by the Bathists, Khomenist and Al Qaedist on the US. Accept the war or even give in to them
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| Drop this argument, sir. You will lose it. |
He should talk.
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| "The Democrats do not understand the full nature and scope of the terrorist war against us," Mr. Giuliani continued to the Rockingham County Lincoln Day Dinner last night. "Never, ever again will this country be on defense waiting for (terrorists) to attack us, if I have anything to say about it. And make no mistake, the Democrats want to put us back on defense." |
Seems that might be what the Democrats except Biden want to do.
They want the US to accept and not do anything about the war being waged upon it. Well it is either that or try to give in to the terrorists.
The US doesn't have to accept war being waged upon it by Bathists , Khomenist and Al Qaedists.
EFL trainer thinks that the US has no right to force mideast nations and elties not to to teach hate , incite violence. plan terror and support Al Qaeda .
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| There is no room for this. |
Al Qaeda , Khomei followers and Bathist don't have a right to their war. Maybe Olberman thinks they do and the US ought to accept it. Seems he does.
That is why he lost the debate long ago
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| This is terrorism itself, dressed up as counter-terrorism. |
Olberman is another one who is more against the government then he is against the enemy. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:43 am Post subject: |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:48 am Post subject: |
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He's ashamed to admit he's one of the bad guys.
Hmmmmmmm ... |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:25 am Post subject: |
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Defend your untenable position: When has Olbermann lied? When has he mislead? When has he defended party over country? |
You can find all the answers to these questions at www.olbermannwatch.com
Gotta love how he thinks that a Nazi salute is high comedy. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:36 am Post subject: |
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Defend your untenable position: When has Olbermann lied? When has he mislead? When has he defended party over country? |
You can find all the answers to these questions at www.olbermannwatch.com
Gotta love how he thinks that a Nazi salute is high comedy. |
Not even gonna bother. Of all the times I've listened to Olbermann, not a single time have I heard him stretch the truth. Not once. A neo-con nutjob parsing Olbermann? Please... |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| Joo said, "*." Again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. .... |
and you ran away again.
Can I ask a favor ? Is this your position? Becuase honestly I don't know where you stand except that you hate Bush.
So I wonder is this your position?
Accept the war by the Bathists, Khomenist and Al Qaedist on the US. Accept the war or even give in to them .Also that the US has no right to force mideast nations and elties not to to teach hate , incite violence. plan terror and support Al Qaeda.
EFL trainer was against the US taking down Saddam but he was also against the sanctions on Iraq.
So
Would you have allowed Saddam to go free?
Do you think Saddam learned his lesson and would be nice?
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:28 am Post subject: |
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He's ashamed to admit he's one of the bad guys.
Hmmmmmmm ... |
Jeff Rense and his supporters like Igotthisguitar aka Charles Manson think that the Nazis were the good guys. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:03 am Post subject: |
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Becuase honestly I don't know where you stand except that you hate Bush.
EFL trainer was against the US taking down Saddam but he was also against the sanctions on Iraq. |
You're correct, you don't. This is not an issue of me not having stated them with exceeding clarity and you not having read them, but simply of you not belonging in such a conversation either because of a lack of intelligence, blind allegiance to ideology, or a lack of L2 proficiency. |
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faster
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Accept the war by the Bathists, Khomenist and Al Qaedist on the US. Accept the war or even give in to them .Also that the US has no right to force mideast nations and elties not to to teach hate , incite violence. plan terror and support Al Qaeda. |
What does this mean? I have tried, but am unable to parse these statements. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:03 am Post subject: |
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| faster wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Accept the war by the Bathists, Khomenist and Al Qaedist on the US. Accept the war or even give in to them. Also that the US has no right to force mideast nations and elties not to to teach hate , incite violence. plan terror and support Al Qaeda. |
What does this mean? I have tried, but am unable to parse these statements. |
BROKEN RECORD |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| faster wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Accept the war by the Bathists, Khomenist and Al Qaedist on the US. Accept the war or even give in to them .Also that the US has no right to force mideast nations and elties not to to teach hate , incite violence. plan terror and support Al Qaeda. |
What does this mean? I have tried, but am unable to parse these statements. |
Start here.
http://www.memri.org/
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Why? Because there were actually four reasons for this war: the real reason, the right reason, the moral reason and the stated reason.
The "real reason" for this war, which was never stated, was that after 9/11 America needed to hit someone in the Arab-Muslim world. Afghanistan wasn't enough because a terrorism bubble had built up over there ?a bubble that posed a real threat to the open societies of the West and needed to be punctured. This terrorism bubble said that plowing airplanes into the World Trade Center was O.K., having Muslim preachers say it was O.K. was O.K., having state-run newspapers call people who did such things "martyrs" was O.K. and allowing Muslim charities to raise money for such "martyrs" was O.K. Not only was all this seen as O.K., there was a feeling among radical Muslims that suicide bombing would level the balance of power between the Arab world and the West, because we had gone soft and their activists were ready to die.
The only way to puncture that bubble was for American soldiers, men and women, to go into the heart of the Arab-Muslim world, house to house, and make clear that we are ready to kill, and to die, to prevent our open society from being undermined by this terrorism bubble. Smashing Saudi Arabia or Syria would have been fine. But we hit Saddam for one simple reason: because we could, and because he deserved it and because he was right in the heart of that world. And don't believe the nonsense that this had no effect. Every neighboring government ?and 98 percent of terrorism is about what governments let happen ?got the message. If you talk to U.S. soldiers in Iraq they will tell you this is what the war was about. |
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/06/04/nyt.friedman/
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| igotthisguitar wrote: |
| faster wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Accept the war by the Bathists, Khomenist and Al Qaedist on the US. Accept the war or even give in to them. Also that the US has no right to force mideast nations and elties not to to teach hate , incite violence. plan terror and support Al Qaeda. |
What does this mean? I have tried, but am unable to parse these statements. |
BROKEN RECORD |
Iamthewitness |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Becuase honestly I don't know where you stand except that you hate Bush.
EFL trainer was against the US taking down Saddam but he was also against the sanctions on Iraq. |
You're correct, you don't. This is not an issue of me not having stated them with exceeding clarity and you not having read them, but simply of you not belonging in such a conversation either because of a lack of intelligence, blind allegiance to ideology, or a lack of L2 proficiency. |
No I don't cause you haven't been clear what in fact the US ought to do. So I am going to assume that you think the US ought to accept the war against it. |
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EFLtrainer
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:35 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
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Becuase honestly I don't know where you stand except that you hate Bush.
EFL trainer was against the US taking down Saddam but he was also against the sanctions on Iraq. |
You're correct, you don't. This is not an issue of me not having stated them with exceeding clarity and you not having read them, but simply of you not belonging in such a conversation either because of a lack of intelligence, blind allegiance to ideology, or a lack of L2 proficiency. |
No I don't cause you haven't been clear what in fact the US ought to do. So I am going to assume that you think the US ought to accept the war against it. |
You and I have participated in more than one thread where I stated my plan. In fact, I have posted recently on which of the candidates plans most closely matches my own.
I wish you had the moral self-awareness to realize what a drag you are on real, needed conversation. |
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