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Does God really exist?
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Rteacher



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Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tomorrow (Tuesday, May 1) is celebrated as the appearance day of the half-man/half-lion incarnation of Vishnu - Lord Nrsimhadeva...

He appeared (over a million years ago...) mainly to protect his pure devotee, Prahlada Maharaja, who was the young son of a powerful atheistic king, Hiranya Kasipu...

Although born in a demonic family, Prahlada had received spiritual instructions from the great sage Narada Muni while still in the womb of his mother...

His materialistic father couldn't tolerate his son's preaching theistic philosophy to his classmates, and he was very puffed-up and greatly feared because of securing the following benedictions from Brahma: he couldn't be killed by any living entity; he couldn't be killed either within or outside a residence; he couldn't be killed either on the ground or in the sky; he couldn't be killed in either daytime or at night; he couldn't be killed by either a human or an animal; and he couldn't be killed by any weapons...

When he realized that he couldn't shake his son's faith in God, he decided to have him killed. All attempts at poisoning, crushing him, etc. were thwarted by invisible intervention from Vishnu...

Finally, Hiranya Kasipu decided to do the evil deed himself and was about to kill the small boy when the following dialogue took place:

"The only bona fide process for controlling the mind is to fix the mind by service to the Lord." (Bhag. 7.8.9)

Although Prahlada tried to instruct Hiranyakasipu, he was not about take the bona fide instructions because he was not interested in devotional service:

"Hiranyakasipu replied: You rascal, you are trying to minimize my value, as if you were better than me at controlling the senses. This is over-intelligent. I can therefore understand that you desire to die at my hands, for this kind of nonsensical talk is indulged in by those about to die." (Bhag. 7.8.11)

Hiranyakasipu: "WHERE IS YOUR GOD?"
Prahlada replied that He is everywhere.
Hiranyakasipu: "IS HE IN THIS PILLAR, PRAHLADA???"
Prahlada: "Yes, he's everywhere."
Hiranyakasipu struck the pillar with his fists not believing Prahlada's
statement; however Lord Nrsimhadeva, half-man and half-lion incarnation of the Supreme Lord, appeared with A ROAR!
A great fight ensued and Lord Nrsimhadeva killed Hiranyakasipu with his nails.

Lord Nrsimhadeva killed Hiranyakasipu without violating any of the boons Hiranyakasipu had received from Lord Brahma:

(a) Hiranyakasipu was killed by Lord Nrsimhadeva who is not a living entity created by Lord Brahma nor anyone else for He is eternal and unborn.
(b) Hiranyakasipu was killed in the doorway which is neither within any residence nor outside any residence.
(c) Hiranyakasipu was killed in the evening which is neither daytime nor night.
(d) Hiranyakasipu was killed on the lap of Lord Nrsimhadeva which is neither on the ground nor in the sky.
(e) Hiranyakasipu was killed by a half-man and half-lion which is neither a human nor an animal.
(h) Hiranyakasipu was killed by the nails which are neither living nor dead nor count as weapons. etc...

http://www.salagram.net/nrsimha-page.htm
http://www.salagram.net/narasimha-story.htm

Note that while Krishna is often seen wearing a beautiful flower garland, in this supremely angry form He just garlands himself with the demon's intestines ...
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the pic in my last post tends to trigger some primal fear of God - but even in that form He can be quite mellow and approachable:

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the eye



Joined: 29 Jan 2004

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3974466981713172831&hl=en-GB
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arjuna



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

19 pages! Forgive me for not reading the whole thread. It probably is very good entertainment, but... need to spend more time making money than being entertained in this world. Gosh, God would surely be pissed off if he had to live in this world.

Seriously, though... You should re-read the Allegory of the Cave, and this time take it LITERALLY.
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luvnpeas



Joined: 03 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

arjuna wrote:
Gosh, God would surely be pissed off if he had to live in this world.


That is an excellent nutshell summary of several proofs of the non-existence of the Biblical god.
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