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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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You and I have participated in more than one thread where I stated my plan. In fact, I have posted recently on which of the candidates plans most closely matches my own.
I wish you had the moral self-awareness to realize what a drag you are on real, needed conversation. |
That plan deals with US national security problems by pretending that there aren't any. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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You and I have participated in more than one thread where I stated my plan. In fact, I have posted recently on which of the candidates plans most closely matches my own.
I wish you had the moral self-awareness to realize what a drag you are on real, needed conversation. |
That plan deals with US national security problems by pretending that there aren't any. |
What plan is that, Joo? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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You and I have participated in more than one thread where I stated my plan. In fact, I have posted recently on which of the candidates plans most closely matches my own.
I wish you had the moral self-awareness to realize what a drag you are on real, needed conversation. |
That plan deals with US national security problems by pretending that there aren't any. |
What plan is that, Joo? |
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Stop funding
- withdraw troops and close bases while moving U.N. in --> 50% Muslim --> stay till stable
- Pull out all U.S. contractors
- Reconciliation for Iraq with united gov't.
- Reparations from U.S. --> moral obligation
- Iraqis full control of oil assets --> no privatization as set by U.S.
(Perhaps I like this plan because it is essentially my plan. It is the same thing I posted here long ago. It is based on the premise that we ARE the problem and our continued presence prevents meaningful change.) |
Also drop the Patriot act.
blame Bush for 9-11.
Since Bush was behind 9-11 the US doesn't have to worried about Al Qaeda.
From reading your posts it is not even clear that you believe that Al Qaeda exists.
According to you the only national security problem the US has is Bush.
You also opposed Sanctions on Saddams Iraq which would have meant Saddam would have been free to rearm .
In other words the on threat the US faces is Bush.
That is pretty much where you stand. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Stop funding
- withdraw troops and close bases while moving U.N. in --> 50% Muslim --> stay till stable
- Pull out all U.S. contractors
- Reconciliation for Iraq with united gov't.
- Reparations from U.S. --> moral obligation
- Iraqis full control of oil assets --> no privatization as set by U.S.
(Perhaps I like this plan because it is essentially my plan. It is the same thing I posted here long ago. It is based on the premise that we ARE the problem and our continued presence prevents meaningful change.) |
Also drop the Patriot act. |
Damned straight.
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| blame Bush for 9-11. |
Possibly. Jury still out. Minimum of negligence on part of the administration: Rumsfeld was *personally* responsible for military action on that day (extraordinary in and of itself.). He did nothing.
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| Since Bush was behind 9-11 the US doesn't have to worried about Al Qaeda. |
Riiiight... because it's not possible the US allowed acts to take place... or that they chose to do nothing once the acts were underway, or.... etc. etc.
Again, you show limited ability to analyze, consider, think inductively...
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| From reading your posts it is not even clear that you believe that Al Qaeda exists. |
Posting something does not equate to believing it. You do realize this, do you not? Particularly since my extreme efforts to keep reminding you knuckleheads of the difference between evidence and proof...
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| According to you the only national security problem the US has is Bush. |
The greatest, yes. The only, no. Again, you know this, so why lie?
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| You also opposed Sanctions on Saddams Iraq which would have meant Saddam would have been free to rearm. |
Did I? Or did I simply point out their effects? The sanctions were wrong in that they were far too extensive and *purposely* targeted the populace in order to foment dissent against Saddam. Or do you not read?
Well, at least you are in the ballpark now. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Since Bush was behind 9-11 the US doesn't have to worried about Al Qaeda. |
Al-Quaeda is a Zionist funded CIA supported bogey-man.
Boo! 
Warped "people" like YOU (JOO), Adolfus Bush & family are a much greater threat to truth, freedom & the "American way of life" than thoroughly MISGUIDED violent Muslim radicals living half a world away  |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Al-Quaeda is a Zionist funded CIA supported bogey-man.
Boo! |
Typical Igothisguitar. 
Case closed |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Also drop the Patriot act. |
Damned straight.[/quote]
Bill Clinton thought that the US justice system could not convict Bin Laden.
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| blame Bush for 9-11. |
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| Possibly. Jury still out. Minimum of negligence on part of the administration: Rumsfeld was *personally* responsible for military action on that day (extraordinary in and of itself.). He did nothing. |
Ok , but 9-11 was being planned well before Bush was in office.
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| Since Bush was behind 9-11 the US doesn't have to worried about Al Qaeda. |
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Riiiight... because it's not possible the US allowed acts to take place... or that they chose to do nothing once the acts were underway, or.... etc. etc.
Again, you show limited ability to analyze, consider, think inductively... |
Ah a conspiracy , just one question what if there wasn't any conspiracy?
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| Posting something does not equate to believing it. You do realize this, do you not? Particularly since my extreme efforts to keep reminding you knuckleheads of the difference between evidence and proof... |
Again it is not clear that you even think Al Qaeda exists or that they are a threat.
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The greatest, yes. The only, no. Again, you know this, so why lie? |
Ok then you think that Bush is the main US security threat. More than AQ , I wonder if he is as you say then why did he allow the elections where the democrats gained control of congress to happen.
By the way i don't think that Bush was president when 70,000 trained in AQ camps , or when Saddam started shooting at US planes , nor was he president when Iran bombed the Khobar barricks.
He wasn't even president when 9-11 was being planned.
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Did I? Or did I simply point out their effects? The sanctions were wrong in that they were far too extensive and *purposely* targeted the populace in order to foment dissent against Saddam. Or do you not read?
Well, at least you are in the ballpark now. |
I read your posts and that is what I read.
Futhermore you do know that the US could not get smart sanctions on Iraq and also that much of the world wasn't going along with them either. |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Guiliani 2008. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Olberman = a left wing version of Rush Limbaugh. |
Would you like to substantiate that? Limbaugh, for example, admits he is only an entertainer, a persona. And he lies. He misrepresents. He insults for fun, attention, and partisan propaganda.
Prove it.
Olbermann is a reporter. His comments are researched, they are valid and are always based in the facts.
Defend your untenable position: When has Olbermann lied? When has he mislead? When has he defended party over country? |
He is left winger like Rush is a right winger
Oberman is a sports caster nothing more.
EFL did I find someone you care about?
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Joo, I'm gonna go out on a limb here. I bet you're from Kansas, right? Be honest now. |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| joo, i enjoy your posts. you know who kerik is, right? |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Location: Jeolla province
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Wait till the Giuliani fans hear about this little shocker that hit the wire today.
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In retrospect, Giuliani's embrace of the emir appears peculiar. But it was only a sign of bigger things to come: the launching of a cozy business relationship with terrorist-tolerant Qatar that is inconsistent with the core message of Giuliani's current presidential campaign, namely that his experience and toughness uniquely equip him to protect America from what he tauntingly calls "Islamic terrorists"--an enemy that he always portrays himself as ready to confront, and the Democrats as ready to accommodate.
The contradictory and stunning reality is that Giuliani Partners, the consulting company that has made Giuliani rich, feasts at the Qatar trough, doing business with the ministry run by the very member of the royal family identified in news and government reports as having concealed KSM--the terrorist mastermind who wired funds from Qatar to his nephew Ramzi Yousef prior to the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, and who also sold the idea of a plane attack on the towers to Osama bin Laden--on his Qatar farm in the mid-1990s...
In other words, as incredible as it might seem, Rudy Giuliani--whose presidential candidacy is steeped in 9/11 iconography--has been doing business with a government agency run by the very man who made the attacks on 9/11 possible. |
Original article is by Wayne Barrett at the Village Voice. It was also discussed on Countdown with Keith Olbermann.
Still wanna vote for him? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:28 am Post subject: |
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| Still wanna vote for him? |
Have more than 2 people here at Dave's said they favor Giuliani?
As far as I can tell, we're in Ron Paul country here. A massive, overwhelming groundswell of 7% of Republicans favor RP...and 98% of those people live in South Korea. |
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