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OiGirl
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun
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 Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject: ESL Teacher Nigerian Scam |
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Have you gotten this one yet?
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I NEED A LESSON TEACHER FOR MY 16 YEARS OLD SON
Hello
Goodday,I am Mrs. JANET BARRYMORE i read through your description and was impress and interested in your lesson advert. I have a son who is 16 years old and he his on holiday now and will be spending his holiday in your country.
I want him to attend your lesson so he will be less busy ,so i have decided that he will be attending for two hours in a day(12 noon to 2 pm). I want you to calculate the cost for a week and send me the total cost. I will be paying you with a US Cashier Check. If this mode of payment is accepted kindly get back to me with your cost of 2 hours per day. I await your reply.
Regard
JANET |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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OiGirl,
Can you give some more details? How did you recieve this? I haven't seen that type of thing yet, but thanks for warning everyone. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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What is the nature of this scam? When I see "nigerian scam" I think:
1) Advanced fee fraud: I've got $1 million for you but you need to pay a fee to get it. And then you need to pay another fee. And another fee.
2) I'm going to buy your advertised product for the $500 you want. Here is a certified check for more than the value (say $5000). Deposit the whole fee, take your $500 + and extra $200 for your trouble and send me back $4300.
Your email has the danger of the second kind of scam. |
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swetepete
Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Location: a limp little burg
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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The scam works like this.
You pay an amount of money that might seem insignificant for a foreigner (most third worlders feel that way about westerners like us) and they run with it.
I got an email from someone purportedly from chicago who was dying to meet me yet was in nigeria on a business trip, loved the passion-filled emails though, she was on her way back to the states, when her hotel "suddenly" socked her with a $300 bill. She said her company couldn't pay for it, so she asked me for help.
I deleted it and forgot all about it.
Then I got an email from her, saying how evil I was for stranding her there like that....I told her I didn't know her enough to make that kind of contribution...oh well..... |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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Then I got an email from her, saying how evil I was for stranding her there like that....I told her I didn't know her enough to make that kind of contribution...oh well..... |
They can get pretty indignant, can't they? I've had fun stringing a few of them alone, particularly the guy posing as a widow trying to enlist my help in distributing her millions to the poor and needy. I hate stooping to their level though, so it doesn't go far.
These guys, however, have absolutely no shame:
http://www.419eater.com/ (check out their letters and trophy sections)
Re: the OP, I'm a little confused about how the scam might work as well. |
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happeningthang
Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 12:05 am Post subject: |
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I think the scam lies in the cashier cheque as payment.
I've heard of scams where people on ebay and like sites say they will buy a certain item, but can only pay by a set amount cashiers cheque usually far above the price of the item. They, naturally, ask you to refund the difference - if you do so before cashing the cheque - you've just handed over some money for a worthless piece of paper and some frustration at the bank. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| happeningthang wrote: |
I think the scam lies in the cashier cheque as payment.
I've heard of scams where people on ebay and like sites say they will buy a certain item, but can only pay by a set amount cashiers cheque usually far above the price of the item. They, naturally, ask you to refund the difference - if you do so before cashing the cheque - you've just handed over some money for a worthless piece of paper and some frustration at the bank. |
Yeah. One assumes the check is as good as cash but it turns out the check is worthless. But you don't know that until the bank clears the check.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_fee_fraud#Auction_overpayment.2C_fake_check
Although based on the other poster's thread, it might be an advanced fee scam. They try to get you to pay various fees (visa fees, maybe their lawyer's background check, etc.) all with the lure of a big pay day. |
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kurva anjad
Joined: 19 Apr 2007
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| kermo wrote: |
They can get pretty indignant, can't they? I've had fun stringing a few of them alone |
Meanwhile, they are phishing you dry.
People, the very action of you replying to the e-mail is wherein the "scam" lays. You think you are having fun with them, meanwhile, they are downloading your bank #'s, passwords, key clicks. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| kurva anjad wrote: |
Meanwhile, they are phishing you dry.
People, the very action of you replying to the e-mail is wherein the "scam" lays. You think you are having fun with them, meanwhile, they are downloading your bank #'s, passwords, key clicks. |
It's obvious you nothing of how the 419 scams work. They are not phishing scams at all; although phishing scams DO exist, these are not them. 419 scams are money transfer fraud scams. |
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mack4289
Joined: 06 Dec 2006
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You know who falls for these kinds of things? Psychotherapists in Massachusetts http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2006/05/15/060515fa_fact. A very interesting article.
"Despite everything, he insisted that he still believed he had been dealing with the real Maryam and Mohammed Abacha. �I think they were legitimately trying to use me and my resources to get their funds out of Nigeria into a safe place where they could have access to them,� he said. Worley wasn�t sure whom to blame for the bad checks, though Nduka was suspect. �Somehow there was a buyoff, a payoff, or something that went on there, and then it got switched to the point where I was then dealing with fraudsters,� he said."
I received an email a while back from someone claiming to be a Chinese oil executive living in Nigeria, offering me a position tutoring his kid in Nigeria, earning 2200/month and living in his house. At the time all I ever thought was, "What a great offer. 2200/month must be a fortune in Nigeria." I'm almost sure I would've figured the scam eventually, but I guess you never know. |
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