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justaskdan



Joined: 28 Apr 2003
Location: Me in Pohang - Oct 20th

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 6:48 pm    Post subject: Has this ever happend to you? Reply with quote

I was having a great day teaching. Saturday... only three classes and I generally make sure the kids have a better time then ususal because after all it is Saterday (for both me and them).

Anyways at the 5min break I was on the balcony having a smoke, the directer was in the can, the receptionist called in sick (hungover again) and the two Korean teachers were in the staff room. I walked in the hallway and a big fat 13 year old boy was punching a toothpick 11 years old girl in the head as hard as he could. A few other students were watching but as this is the biggest kid in the school no one could really do much.

I got them seperated easily and Min has a bloddy knows and starts crying which I don't blame her and her other girl friends drag her off to the bathroom. I scream at the little bas tard. I really wanted to punch him in the head. I almost did but I was able to control my anger enough to give him a couple of light shots in the chest and ask him "What did he think he was doing". Not only is this the biggest kid in the school he is the stupidest. And I mean stupid. He is borderline re tarded. Everyone knows it. So he doesn't understand my questions and keeps saying "why?" "WHY?". I tell him the word is "what?" and get the directer.

Two things bothered me, the fact that an older bigger boy could punch a girl. I just thought future wife beater. I have never hit a woman in my life. I'm not bragging that is the way I was raised and what I believe to be right. Once on the bus I really impressed my friends by taking four shots to the head by a girl that though I called her a cow or something. Everyone was very pissed and we were taking the bus home after the bars let out. I was too drunk to avoid the punches and I wouldn't hit her back so I just stood there and kept getting punched in the head before the bus driver stopped to see what was going on. My friends thought that was pretty funny but my native friend said that if that was him he would have clocked her. That is the way he was raised with violence being more the norm then the exception.

The other thing that bothered me was the fact I all most lost my temper and punched him. After all a 200 pound man hitting a 13 year old is not right ethier. I guess the important thing is I didn't, it is just what I saw made me so very very angry. My question is do any of you see violent behavior from your kids. Usually mine are always very polite to me and to one another. Even when playing WWF they bow to me first, before they kick me in the shins.
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Clutch Cargo



Joined: 28 Feb 2003
Location: Sim City 2005

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"and Min has a bloddy knows"???
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ed



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the same thing happened to me one day.

I was in class helping a student and when I looked up I saw one of the students (a boy who was 12 and weighed about 200 pounds and not very bright) slammig his fist as hard as he could into a little girl who was sitting quietly.

I snapped! I screamed at him then ran towards him with the intent of choking the life out of him.....

I was tripped up by the leg of a chair and so my fingers missed him by inches

he got a freaked out look on his face and started running and managed to get out of the school and run home without me touching him....

every class after that I made him sit directly beside me and if he so much as twitched I would twist his arm

oddly enough, he kept coming back for more for months
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Walter Mitty



Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Tokyo! ^.^

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clutch Cargo wrote:
"and Min has a bloddy knows"???

Maybe he was empathizing, and typing like she'd be talking after taking a few shots to the face.

As far as kids and fighting goes, I've seen a few at my school go at it - playfully for the most part. I've broken up a few scuffles, usually with very little resistance. (At 183cm and a pretty solid 94kilos, they know better than to "accidentally" hit me while trying to get at each other.)

I've never hit one of the kids while breaking up a fight, but I will grab an arm or the back of somebody's neck and give it one hell of a squeeze. That tends to make them forget all about their fight. I don't let go until they've made it clear that they're not going to try anything else. If they do go at it again after I've released them, I grab hold again and march them to see the disciplinarian, who will beat the fight out of them with a nice thick paddle.
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justaskdan



Joined: 28 Apr 2003
Location: Me in Pohang - Oct 20th

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CC quoted

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"and Min has a bloddy knows"???


take a look at my quote....
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Clutch Cargo



Joined: 28 Feb 2003
Location: Sim City 2005

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, I get it.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We teachers get to know a lot of kids so a few will inevitably be little sh*its!!


I've seen boys hit girls a lot in Korea. They just don't have the same, 'never hit a girl' schoolyard rule here.

The only kid I've ever actually hated went under the English name of Charles. Big, stupid, ugly, sullen and a total bully. I swear I taught that boy for about 6 months and I never saw him smile, help or be in any way a nice person.

One end-of-session party I gave all the kids a couple of cheap candies. I then left the room to get more candy from the teachers room. When I returned 2 students were crying and the rest looked at me with a look that could only be described as "please protect us!!". I then looked at Charles who was happily munching about 6 candies at once with another pile sitting in front of him. He had bullied the candy from every single kid in the room and actually punched a few of them in the process.

Then he looked surprised when I shouted at him. I took all the candy back off him and gave it to the rightful owners. Then I handed out more goodies and left him out. I don't think he learned anything though. Probably just made him more bitter and twisted.

I just thought he was a horrible boy who will grow into a horrible man.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never wittnessed anything like that in my school and it's a good thing I haven't. Time to call the parents of the boy. I've called parents for less.
If the director starts squealing about it ask him just what kind of reputation/school does he want to have.
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Walter Mitty



Joined: 27 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My current school is really cool about the calls home to mom. My boss makes the kids call and tell their mom what they did wrong (academically or screwing around). I've yet to see one make it through the call without crying once mom starts ripping into him. After the kid's gotten his lashing from mom, my boss gets on the phone and further (or truthfully in some cases) explains the situation. I can just imagine what these kids face when they get home.

They all change their attitudes pretty quickly after going through that little ordeal.
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justaskdan



Joined: 28 Apr 2003
Location: Me in Pohang - Oct 20th

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, is that ever a good idea, my boss is pretty good at beating the children, which doesn't work, only short term and understandably causes unnesessary resentment and hostility.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Korean female teacher, 25, was in the staff room standing getting books for next class. The room has a glass front/window from desk to ceiling, and on the left side. And a little hole cut out of it like a bank teller window. I was in the room too when she begins yelling like I've never heard her yell before, mostly because it was all rebounding off the glass and back into the room again. But enough of it was getting out the 'bank teller window hole' to tell a kid to NOT use taekwondo in school. It was Jungwan, a wiry little sassy guy, quite witty. But he must have been doing a side-kick or something taekwondo-ish.
When I first arrived the kids had a foreign teacher who couldn't control them, so there were boys punching girls. It was like WWF. The girl would hang her head down and cry like a weeping willow, long hair over her face. The boys would sit and smirk like little Henry the eighths. Luckily there were no beheadings.
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toomuchtime



Joined: 11 May 2003
Location: the only country with four distinct seasons

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:

I just thought he was a horrible boy who will grow into a horrible man.


Probably true.
Sad.
Heart-breaking.
Just plain wrong.

Where do these brutes-to-be learn this behaviour? I'm guessing from Dad.
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leeroy12



Joined: 01 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have never hit a woman in my life


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I was able to control my anger enough to give (a 13 year-old) a couple of light shots in the chest


Fair play - you need to break up violence in school. But what, exactly, do "a couple of light shots in the chest" mean, when we're talking about a 200 pound guy hitting a 13 year-old?

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justaskdan



Joined: 28 Apr 2003
Location: Me in Pohang - Oct 20th

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tapped him instead of putting my fist through his head to show him what it feels like when someone bigger then you attacks you.
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Saxiif



Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam

PostPosted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, really worry to hear this. Just about the strongest kid in my school is this one girl who really keeps the annoying boys in line, definately one of my favorite students and the poor girl is going get a lot of shit later in her life due to her build (not fat at all, just broad-shouldered and strong) Sad
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