View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
thewolf
Joined: 30 Apr 2007
|
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
so, for those of you who attended the appointment was it by choice or because it was mandatory?
i'm going to get the specifics tomorrow. my co-worker claims if we fail to go to the appt, there is a 10 million won fine. that's just insane. her numbers have got to be off.
given a recent spate of unusual comments, suspicious stares and random terminations, i'm nervous (or just paranoid).
i am american and the thought of a free check-up is enticing, but the invasion of privacy is insulting. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
|
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 6:46 am Post subject: |
|
|
thewolf wrote: |
my co-worker claims if we fail to go to the appt, there is a 10 million won fine. |
I would ask to see this supposed policy and fine. They won't produce it because they are lying. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
sojourner1

Joined: 17 Apr 2007 Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug
|
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:01 am Post subject: |
|
|
2 of my co-FT's had a mandatory doctor appointment on a Saturday about a month ago. They said that after you have about 6 months in, you got to go for the checkup. No threats of fines or anything though. It simply is when vice director tells you, you got to go with her on a Saturday afternoon.
And they were not told until Friday afternoon, the day before! This would tick me off, but I would remain cool and simply tell her. "Oh thats too bad, I already made a promise to a friend and have plans for my weekend" |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Atavistic
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.
|
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:25 am Post subject: |
|
|
I had to have a health form done for my public school job.
It went like this.
Doctor (terrified to speak English): What's your immunizations?
Me: I'm immunized. I promise. My mom is a nurse. [smile]
Doctor: OK. [Writes "immunized."] How is your general health? Any health problems?
Me (think about some ongoing health problems that I know how to manage and that this guy is not going to have a clue about such as Raynaud's disease): Good. I do taekwondo five nights a week, play soccer sometimes.
Doctor: Taekwondo, huh? You like? What belt? [Chatter, chatter, writes, "healthy."] How is your mental health? Happy most days?
Me: Yep. I like Korea.
Doctor: OK, we do blood test.
Me: OK.
A week later, I got the blood test results.
Doctor: You have Hep A in past, but not now. OK, now.
Me: I had a Hep A vaccination, is that it?
Doctor (flustered): OK now, OK now!
Me: Gwenchanayo?
Doctor: Nay! And chest X-ray good.
Bam. There's your Korean medical check. Not a single question about my diet, drinking, smoking, drugs, sex, nothing.
Just find a doctor who's nervous to speak English and everything will be "OK now." |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
jaderedux

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Lurking outside Seoul
|
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:43 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I am curious and this is purely curiousity. Why is having a mostly free physical such a big deal? I understand the privacy issue somewhat but holy cow everyone even you strapping young ladies and gentleman should have a physical now and again. It's cheap and things like high blood pressure and blood sugar problems affect all ages.
If they tell you have a problem I would get a second opinion from a place like Asan Hospital (Great foreigner clinic) Drug testing is mandatory in most companies in the states.
Insurance physicals are quite common.
Why would anyone voluntarly have a colonoscopy??? Because cancer sucks. I had one and don't need to really do one again for 2 years so I won't this year. Mammogram not much more fun for the same reason. You think b r e a s t cancer only happens to someone else? If you are female and sexually active you should have a pap smear. Makes good sense. And this is every two years. I go when I choose. They choose the hospital. They trundle me around doing this and that. They know I have white coat syndrome and check my blood pressure and freak out... Then look at my chart and I check at school now and again.
So why all the fuss. If you do only the mandatory tests it is damn near free. Yeah drug testing sucks. I don't think sparking up now and again is such a bad thing. Far better than drowning in vat of liquor every weekend but that is acceptable here. Right now there is a huge campaign on TV about not taking drugs. Students every year have eye exams, piss tests for drugs and blood sugar. Ht and Wt are charted. Hearing tests etc.
Nothing like a doctor sitting in your classroom and students standing there with dripping test sticks. Thankfully I don't go room to room anymore so they don't come to my classroom to do the checks.
The Korean teachers have to go in my public school every two years and so do I. I don't mind now that the report is sent to me. But the Nurses office does get it in the end and if the Principal or Vice Principal were to ask for it they could see it. This is Korea "uri nara" there is no I only the we and they don't get why we find this so unnerving and we don't get why they meekly hand over what ever info they want.
Jade |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
TOMODACHI-KID

Joined: 24 Apr 2007 Location: LAND OF THE RISING SUN: TAKASAGO-KATSUSHIKA
|
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
What? A mandatory check-up with a doctor! No way man--very invasive, pal! You must have caused suspicion for your Hogwon boss to warrant this, eh? Still, that's just a no-no for your boss to do that.
When I worked at a Hogwon in Daegu, I was not obliged or forced to get a mandatory check-up. All my friends did not either, and they lived in Seoul!
If it is part of your medical coverage, it is a first because I never heard such a thing....
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"JUST REMEMBER TO TAKE THE 5th WHEN BEHIND SOME METAL DOOR IN A SOGGY ROOM WITH A POLICE OFFICIAL!"  |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
|
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject: |
|
|
sojourner1 wrote: |
2 of my co-FT's had a mandatory doctor appointment on a Saturday about a month ago. They said that after you have about 6 months in, you got to go for the checkup. |
If you work at a public school, yes. If not, no. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Horangi Munshin

Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Location: Busan
|
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
jaderedux wrote: |
I am curious and this is purely curiousity. Why is having a mostly free physical such a big deal? I understand the privacy issue somewhat but holy cow everyone even you strapping young ladies and gentleman should have a physical now and again. It's cheap and things like high blood pressure and blood sugar problems affect all ages.
If they tell you have a problem I would get a second opinion from a place like Asan Hospital (Great foreigner clinic) Drug testing is mandatory in most companies in the states.
Insurance physicals are quite common.
Why would anyone voluntarly have a colonoscopy??? Because cancer sucks. I had one and don't need to really do one again for 2 years so I won't this year. Mammogram not much more fun for the same reason. You think b r e a s t cancer only happens to someone else? If you are female and sexually active you should have a pap smear. Makes good sense. And this is every two years. I go when I choose. They choose the hospital. They trundle me around doing this and that. They know I have white coat syndrome and check my blood pressure and freak out... Then look at my chart and I check at school now and again.
So why all the fuss. If you do only the mandatory tests it is damn near free. Yeah drug testing sucks. I don't think sparking up now and again is such a bad thing. Far better than drowning in vat of liquor every weekend but that is acceptable here. Right now there is a huge campaign on TV about not taking drugs. Students every year have eye exams, piss tests for drugs and blood sugar. Ht and Wt are charted. Hearing tests etc.
Nothing like a doctor sitting in your classroom and students standing there with dripping test sticks. Thankfully I don't go room to room anymore so they don't come to my classroom to do the checks.
The Korean teachers have to go in my public school every two years and so do I. I don't mind now that the report is sent to me. But the Nurses office does get it in the end and if the Principal or Vice Principal were to ask for it they could see it. This is Korea "uri nara" there is no I only the we and they don't get why we find this so unnerving and we don't get why they meekly hand over what ever info they want.
Jade |
Sure I get one every five years because of my health condition. They are recommended for everyone over 50 every 5 years, 2-3 if there is cancer in the family. Not every two years for young people though!!! |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
|
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:33 am Post subject: |
|
|
Quote: |
Why is having a mostly free physical such a big deal? |
It's NOT the actual physical that's the issue here- it's the lies being told by the boss about medical issues. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
jaderedux

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Lurking outside Seoul
|
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject: |
|
|
wylies99 wrote: |
Quote: |
Why is having a mostly free physical such a big deal? |
It's NOT the actual physical that's the issue here- it's the lies being told by the boss about medical issues. |
Then there is the compromise. It doesn't hurt to have a physical now and again. I am not over 50. But there is some breast cancer in my family and Katie Couric has scared me straight on colon cancer so I had one done. Won't have another one for about 3 years.
Since when did being sick only affect older people? Cousin found lump in her breast at 28. Very early stage cancer. Mother same story little older. I had a base line at 27 and get one here every 2 years cuz it is freaking cheap. And any woman who is sexually active should have a PAP smear every two years if not every year.
Yeah the lies suck but in Korea they do tend to mask the truth in lies constantly. I have learned to seperate the wheat from the chaff. I pick battle wisely. A free check-up isn't one I would fight too hard.
Jade |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Ryst Helmut

Joined: 26 Apr 2003 Location: In search of the elusive signature...
|
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 3:51 am Post subject: |
|
|
Well, OP, did you/are you gonna do it?
!shoosh,
Ryst |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Horangi Munshin

Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Location: Busan
|
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:16 am Post subject: |
|
|
jaderedux wrote: |
wylies99 wrote: |
Quote: |
Why is having a mostly free physical such a big deal? |
It's NOT the actual physical that's the issue here- it's the lies being told by the boss about medical issues. |
Then there is the compromise. It doesn't hurt to have a physical now and again. I am not over 50. But there is some breast cancer in my family and Katie Couric has scared me straight on colon cancer so I had one done. Won't have another one for about 3 years.
Since when did being sick only affect older people? Cousin found lump in her breast at 28. Very early stage cancer. Mother same story little older. I had a base line at 27 and get one here every 2 years cuz it is freaking cheap. And any woman who is sexually active should have a PAP smear every two years if not every year.
Yeah the lies suck but in Korea they do tend to mask the truth in lies constantly. I have learned to seperate the wheat from the chaff. I pick battle wisely. A free check-up isn't one I would fight too hard.
Jade |
I originally commented about the colonoscopy and my further comments were about that too. I didn't say or refer to breast cancer. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Location: United States
|
Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
ChuckECheese wrote: |
There are no such a thing as mandatory doctor's appointment (phyiscal).
You're not in the military. You're working at a hagwon. If this is arranged by your boss, tell him/her that you refuse to do it. |
Everyone covered under the national health plan has to take the exam. It is a free exam that could cost a couple hundred thousand won here, and is worth ( in my case) $700 back home. You do not need to disclose your medications you are taking. It is not invasive ( unless you take the optional stomach exam) |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
willneverteachagain
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
|
Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Quote: |
so, for those of you who attended the appointment was it by choice or because it was mandatory?
|
shitwons can not make u do this. tell ur boss to *beep* off
he cant make u do it. if he's telling u it's "mandatory"
it's because he wants u to think that. he's lying to u
SHOCKING |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
xtchr
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
|
Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: |
|
|
willneverteachagain wrote: |
Quote: |
so, for those of you who attended the appointment was it by choice or because it was mandatory?
|
*beep* can not make u do this. tell ur boss to *beep* off
he cant make u do it. if he's telling u it's "mandatory"
it's because he wants u to think that. he's lying to u
SHOCKING |
do u no if yr keybd hz a y and a o, so that u can actually type the word 'you'? bcoz txt speak on a chat forum can get kind of annoying, u no? |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
|