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thewolf



Joined: 30 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so, for those of you who attended the appointment was it by choice or because it was mandatory?

i'm going to get the specifics tomorrow. my co-worker claims if we fail to go to the appt, there is a 10 million won fine. that's just insane. her numbers have got to be off.

given a recent spate of unusual comments, suspicious stares and random terminations, i'm nervous (or just paranoid).

i am american and the thought of a free check-up is enticing, but the invasion of privacy is insulting.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thewolf wrote:
my co-worker claims if we fail to go to the appt, there is a 10 million won fine.

I would ask to see this supposed policy and fine. They won't produce it because they are lying.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 of my co-FT's had a mandatory doctor appointment on a Saturday about a month ago. They said that after you have about 6 months in, you got to go for the checkup. No threats of fines or anything though. It simply is when vice director tells you, you got to go with her on a Saturday afternoon.

And they were not told until Friday afternoon, the day before! This would tick me off, but I would remain cool and simply tell her. "Oh thats too bad, I already made a promise to a friend and have plans for my weekend"
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to have a health form done for my public school job.

It went like this.

Doctor (terrified to speak English): What's your immunizations?

Me: I'm immunized. I promise. My mom is a nurse. [smile]

Doctor: OK. [Writes "immunized."] How is your general health? Any health problems?

Me (think about some ongoing health problems that I know how to manage and that this guy is not going to have a clue about such as Raynaud's disease): Good. I do taekwondo five nights a week, play soccer sometimes.

Doctor: Taekwondo, huh? You like? What belt? [Chatter, chatter, writes, "healthy."] How is your mental health? Happy most days?

Me: Yep. I like Korea.

Doctor: OK, we do blood test.

Me: OK.

A week later, I got the blood test results.

Doctor: You have Hep A in past, but not now. OK, now.

Me: I had a Hep A vaccination, is that it?

Doctor (flustered): OK now, OK now!

Me: Gwenchanayo?

Doctor: Nay! And chest X-ray good.


Bam. There's your Korean medical check. Not a single question about my diet, drinking, smoking, drugs, sex, nothing.

Just find a doctor who's nervous to speak English and everything will be "OK now."
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jaderedux



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Lurking outside Seoul

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am curious and this is purely curiousity. Why is having a mostly free physical such a big deal? I understand the privacy issue somewhat but holy cow everyone even you strapping young ladies and gentleman should have a physical now and again. It's cheap and things like high blood pressure and blood sugar problems affect all ages.

If they tell you have a problem I would get a second opinion from a place like Asan Hospital (Great foreigner clinic) Drug testing is mandatory in most companies in the states.

Insurance physicals are quite common.

Why would anyone voluntarly have a colonoscopy??? Because cancer sucks. I had one and don't need to really do one again for 2 years so I won't this year. Mammogram not much more fun for the same reason. You think b r e a s t cancer only happens to someone else? If you are female and sexually active you should have a pap smear. Makes good sense. And this is every two years. I go when I choose. They choose the hospital. They trundle me around doing this and that. They know I have white coat syndrome and check my blood pressure and freak out... Then look at my chart and I check at school now and again.

So why all the fuss. If you do only the mandatory tests it is damn near free. Yeah drug testing sucks. I don't think sparking up now and again is such a bad thing. Far better than drowning in vat of liquor every weekend but that is acceptable here. Right now there is a huge campaign on TV about not taking drugs. Students every year have eye exams, piss tests for drugs and blood sugar. Ht and Wt are charted. Hearing tests etc.

Nothing like a doctor sitting in your classroom and students standing there with dripping test sticks. Thankfully I don't go room to room anymore so they don't come to my classroom to do the checks.

The Korean teachers have to go in my public school every two years and so do I. I don't mind now that the report is sent to me. But the Nurses office does get it in the end and if the Principal or Vice Principal were to ask for it they could see it. This is Korea "uri nara" there is no I only the we and they don't get why we find this so unnerving and we don't get why they meekly hand over what ever info they want.

Jade
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TOMODACHI-KID



Joined: 24 Apr 2007
Location: LAND OF THE RISING SUN: TAKASAGO-KATSUSHIKA

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What? A mandatory check-up with a doctor! No way man--very invasive, pal! You must have caused suspicion for your Hogwon boss to warrant this, eh? Still, that's just a no-no for your boss to do that.
When I worked at a Hogwon in Daegu, I was not obliged or forced to get a mandatory check-up. All my friends did not either, and they lived in Seoul! Laughing


If it is part of your medical coverage, it is a first because I never heard such a thing....

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

"JUST REMEMBER TO TAKE THE 5th WHEN BEHIND SOME METAL DOOR IN A SOGGY ROOM WITH A POLICE OFFICIAL!" Shocked
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:
2 of my co-FT's had a mandatory doctor appointment on a Saturday about a month ago. They said that after you have about 6 months in, you got to go for the checkup.

If you work at a public school, yes. If not, no.
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaderedux wrote:
I am curious and this is purely curiousity. Why is having a mostly free physical such a big deal? I understand the privacy issue somewhat but holy cow everyone even you strapping young ladies and gentleman should have a physical now and again. It's cheap and things like high blood pressure and blood sugar problems affect all ages.

If they tell you have a problem I would get a second opinion from a place like Asan Hospital (Great foreigner clinic) Drug testing is mandatory in most companies in the states.

Insurance physicals are quite common.

Why would anyone voluntarly have a colonoscopy??? Because cancer sucks. I had one and don't need to really do one again for 2 years so I won't this year. Mammogram not much more fun for the same reason. You think b r e a s t cancer only happens to someone else? If you are female and sexually active you should have a pap smear. Makes good sense. And this is every two years. I go when I choose. They choose the hospital. They trundle me around doing this and that. They know I have white coat syndrome and check my blood pressure and freak out... Then look at my chart and I check at school now and again.

So why all the fuss. If you do only the mandatory tests it is damn near free. Yeah drug testing sucks. I don't think sparking up now and again is such a bad thing. Far better than drowning in vat of liquor every weekend but that is acceptable here. Right now there is a huge campaign on TV about not taking drugs. Students every year have eye exams, piss tests for drugs and blood sugar. Ht and Wt are charted. Hearing tests etc.

Nothing like a doctor sitting in your classroom and students standing there with dripping test sticks. Thankfully I don't go room to room anymore so they don't come to my classroom to do the checks.

The Korean teachers have to go in my public school every two years and so do I. I don't mind now that the report is sent to me. But the Nurses office does get it in the end and if the Principal or Vice Principal were to ask for it they could see it. This is Korea "uri nara" there is no I only the we and they don't get why we find this so unnerving and we don't get why they meekly hand over what ever info they want.

Jade


Sure I get one every five years because of my health condition. They are recommended for everyone over 50 every 5 years, 2-3 if there is cancer in the family. Not every two years for young people though!!!
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why is having a mostly free physical such a big deal?


It's NOT the actual physical that's the issue here- it's the lies being told by the boss about medical issues.
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jaderedux



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Lurking outside Seoul

PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
Quote:
Why is having a mostly free physical such a big deal?


It's NOT the actual physical that's the issue here- it's the lies being told by the boss about medical issues.


Then there is the compromise. It doesn't hurt to have a physical now and again. I am not over 50. But there is some breast cancer in my family and Katie Couric has scared me straight on colon cancer so I had one done. Won't have another one for about 3 years.

Since when did being sick only affect older people? Cousin found lump in her breast at 28. Very early stage cancer. Mother same story little older. I had a base line at 27 and get one here every 2 years cuz it is freaking cheap. And any woman who is sexually active should have a PAP smear every two years if not every year.

Yeah the lies suck but in Korea they do tend to mask the truth in lies constantly. I have learned to seperate the wheat from the chaff. I pick battle wisely. A free check-up isn't one I would fight too hard.

Jade
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Ryst Helmut



Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, OP, did you/are you gonna do it?

!shoosh,

Ryst
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaderedux wrote:
wylies99 wrote:
Quote:
Why is having a mostly free physical such a big deal?


It's NOT the actual physical that's the issue here- it's the lies being told by the boss about medical issues.


Then there is the compromise. It doesn't hurt to have a physical now and again. I am not over 50. But there is some breast cancer in my family and Katie Couric has scared me straight on colon cancer so I had one done. Won't have another one for about 3 years.

Since when did being sick only affect older people? Cousin found lump in her breast at 28. Very early stage cancer. Mother same story little older. I had a base line at 27 and get one here every 2 years cuz it is freaking cheap. And any woman who is sexually active should have a PAP smear every two years if not every year.

Yeah the lies suck but in Korea they do tend to mask the truth in lies constantly. I have learned to seperate the wheat from the chaff. I pick battle wisely. A free check-up isn't one I would fight too hard.

Jade


I originally commented about the colonoscopy and my further comments were about that too. I didn't say or refer to breast cancer.
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regicide



Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChuckECheese wrote:
There are no such a thing as mandatory doctor's appointment (phyiscal).

You're not in the military. You're working at a hagwon. If this is arranged by your boss, tell him/her that you refuse to do it.


Everyone covered under the national health plan has to take the exam. It is a free exam that could cost a couple hundred thousand won here, and is worth ( in my case) $700 back home. You do not need to disclose your medications you are taking. It is not invasive ( unless you take the optional stomach exam)
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willneverteachagain



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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so, for those of you who attended the appointment was it by choice or because it was mandatory?


shitwons can not make u do this. tell ur boss to *beep* off
he cant make u do it. if he's telling u it's "mandatory"
it's because he wants u to think that. he's lying to u


SHOCKING
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xtchr



Joined: 23 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

willneverteachagain wrote:
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so, for those of you who attended the appointment was it by choice or because it was mandatory?


*beep* can not make u do this. tell ur boss to *beep* off
he cant make u do it. if he's telling u it's "mandatory"
it's because he wants u to think that. he's lying to u


SHOCKING


do u no if yr keybd hz a y and a o, so that u can actually type the word 'you'? bcoz txt speak on a chat forum can get kind of annoying, u no?
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