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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Location: KC
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Or if you want a cheap AMD setup, here's an idea. Again, others can give their opinions. I'm just trying to give some ideas.
M/B ASUS M2A MVP - 80.000
CPU AMD Athlon 64 x2 3800+ - 78.000
RAM OCZ PC2-5400 Gold Edition (512x2) - 89.000
HDD Seagate 250GB Sata2 - 68.000
ODD Lite-on DVD+-RW (DL) LH-20A1P - 36.000
VGA XFX 7600GT Zalman - 125.000
Case Urex IW-C583 - 32.000
Power Dao Korea Ssutek 480w - 48.000
TOTAL - 556.000
As for the cheap RAM...Yes, the OP could go that route. Me on the other hand, I wouldn't put used RAM of a lower speed into a brand new system that I'm custom building.
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Thunndarr

Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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I think for AMD I'd go with:
Asus M2V: 62,000
AMD 64 X2 4600+: 116,000
Samsung DDR2 PC2-5300x2: 34,000 (I usually get budget ram, sue me.)
Seagate SATA2 400gig: 100,000
DVD-RW: I like BenQ, but whatever floats your boat will work: about 35,000
Case: Others have been mentioned. 30,000
VGA: 7600 GT looks good here, can get a brand name one from around 105,000 on up.
Power: Dunno, the ones suggested look ok. About 48,000 won then.
Total: 525,000 if my math is right. |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:31 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, prices are starting to come down. The com I was gonna build a few months back but got put on the back burner due to my school buying me a com for my home would have cost 1,200,000 w/out monitor. I re-priced it all today and now it would cost 1,000,000. The E6600 is now cheaper than the E6400 was then.  |
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:44 am Post subject: |
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Honestly, this is a bad time to buy. Or good if you want to buy a system that will be very, very dated within 6 to 8 months.
Penryn is coming fast. Intel are dying to get the quad core out to stifle AMDs next offering; if they can't beat it with speed, than they will try with price cuts and PR.
Penryn will be quad core, based on the .45nm fab. High speeds, low power, loads of features and yeah, let's say it again.....4 cores.
DX9 is done like dinner; MS is itching to get DX10 sussed out to boost Vista sales and the DX10 cards are still in their infancy. Right now, the 8800 series looks so wild because of the DX9 code; DX10 is a whole lot of smackdown. The current cards will be sweating.
But again, Nvidia will be trying to minimize ATIs next offering, so we will se good pricing, feature-rich and very powerful cards soon enough.
SP1 for Vista is due in September and I have a feeling DX10 will be around that time as well.
Yes, there is always something better around the corner. Its a fair argument and if you are just a casual computer user, these reasons may not mean much to you. I don't expect the internet or Word will benefit a whole lot from DX10, Penryn or SP1. However, if you edit video or audio, major content creation or game, the wait will be worth it. |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:54 am Post subject: |
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What do you reckon those new penguins will be priced like...are we talking 800,000 for a processor? |
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:14 am Post subject: |
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spliff wrote: |
What do you reckon those new penguins will be priced like...are we talking 800,000 for a processor? |
No. |
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SuperHero

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Location: Superhero Hideout
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:03 am Post subject: |
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Demophobe wrote: |
Yes, there is always something better around the corner. Its a fair argument and if you are just a casual computer user, these reasons may not mean much to you. I don't expect the internet or Word will benefit a whole lot from DX10, Penryn or SP1. However, if you edit video or audio, major content creation or game, the wait will be worth it. |
Amen, brother. |
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blackjack

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: anyang
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:00 am Post subject: |
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off topic but I run some pretty cpu intensive statistical and GIS programmes. would having dual core be much better than a high end single core. you are normally only doing one thing at a time |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:04 am Post subject: |
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kprrok wrote: |
As for the cheap RAM...Yes, the OP could go that route. Me on the other hand, I wouldn't put used RAM of a lower speed into a brand new system that I'm custom building.
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Difference between DDR and DDR2 isn't as great as it is going from 1GB to 2GB.
I would easily take 2GB of DDR RAM over 1GB of DDR2 5400. The 2GB of DDR would be running in Dual Channel mode. Especially with the budget PC the OP wants to build. More RAM is better than faster RAM.
Now if the PC were to be gaming, video editing, etc... where a serious system is needed, then spare no expense, you want BOTH the faster RAM and as much of it as you can get.
Given the pricing requirements and the system specs for the OP, more RAM is better than faster RAM IMHO. Difference between 1GB and 2GB > Difference between PC3200 DDR and PC5400 DDR2. |
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chevro1et

Joined: 01 Feb 2007 Location: Busan, ROK
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:08 am Post subject: |
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blackjack wrote: |
off topic but I run some pretty cpu intensive statistical and GIS programmes. would having dual core be much better than a high end single core. you are normally only doing one thing at a time |
I have a B.Sc in Geography, Concentration in GIS myself. Depending on what software you are running, some of it is multi-threaded and can use both cores for computations at the same time. Realistically though, for that kind of processing, 2gb of ram is essential. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Location: KC
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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pkang0202 wrote: |
Difference between DDR and DDR2 isn't as great as it is going from 1GB to 2GB.
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Given the pricing requirements and the system specs for the OP, more RAM is better than faster RAM IMHO. Difference between 1GB and 2GB > Difference between PC3200 DDR and PC5400 DDR2. |
I think you missed the key word that I used in that original thought. The word was USED slower RAM. Yes, 2GB is better than 1GB, but I would never put used RAM into a brand new system! I would only go with new stuff so that I know it's good.
Now, if you were giving the RAM to the OP, I would do it, but no way would I pay for USED RAM in a new system.
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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kprrok wrote: |
pkang0202 wrote: |
Difference between DDR and DDR2 isn't as great as it is going from 1GB to 2GB.
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Given the pricing requirements and the system specs for the OP, more RAM is better than faster RAM IMHO. Difference between 1GB and 2GB > Difference between PC3200 DDR and PC5400 DDR2. |
I think you missed the key word that I used in that original thought. The word was USED slower RAM. Yes, 2GB is better than 1GB, but I would never put used RAM into a brand new system! I would only go with new stuff so that I know it's good.
Now, if you were giving the RAM to the OP, I would do it, but no way would I pay for USED RAM in a new system.
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Yeah, if it's free, I'd try it, but buying used RAM? Only if it's for my old PC. |
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DCJames

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 5:22 am Post subject: |
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Demophobe wrote: |
Honestly, this is a bad time to buy. Or good if you want to buy a system that will be very, very dated within 6 to 8 months.
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Why not buy the best computer you can for the money and upgrade the parts as the new standards come out? Isn't it worth paying to have a computer now even though it might not have the best specs?
Also, does anybody know if quadcore processors can be upgraded on dualcore mother boards? |
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:24 am Post subject: |
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DCJames wrote: |
Demophobe wrote: |
Honestly, this is a bad time to buy. Or good if you want to buy a system that will be very, very dated within 6 to 8 months.
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Why not buy the best computer you can for the money and upgrade the parts as the new standards come out? Isn't it worth paying to have a computer now even though it might not have the best specs?
Also, does anybody know if quadcore processors can be upgraded on dualcore mother boards? |
Good question. This is why its a gamble to spend now. Penryn FSB will be 1333MHz. Right now, Core2Duo is at 1033. A BIOS flash may do the trick (heavily dependent), but that doesn't sell many mainboards, does it?
You raise some interesting points, though I was not talking about adequacy. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 7:27 am Post subject: |
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Demophobe wrote: |
DCJames wrote: |
Demophobe wrote: |
Honestly, this is a bad time to buy. Or good if you want to buy a system that will be very, very dated within 6 to 8 months.
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Why not buy the best computer you can for the money and upgrade the parts as the new standards come out? Isn't it worth paying to have a computer now even though it might not have the best specs?
Also, does anybody know if quadcore processors can be upgraded on dualcore mother boards? |
Good question. This is why its a gamble to spend now. Penryn FSB will be 1333MHz. Right now, Core2Duo is at 1033. A BIOS flash may do the trick (heavily dependent), but that doesn't sell many mainboards, does it?
You raise some interesting points, though I was not talking about adequacy. |
How do you figure that will cost us when it comes out later this year? |
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