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SPINOZA · Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Location: $eoul

a collective EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! Creepy! Scary! Disturbing! OMFG EXACTLY!!

But.....323 hits and 14 replies with the thread content perfectly clear from the title. Laughing

Kyrei · Joined: 22 Jan 2003

I read the thread title, followed the link and all I have to say is... "Heungh" [shrug] not my thing. There is nothing illegal about it so what is the big deal?

kimchi_pizza · Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:38 pm Post subject:

Annnndddd THAT is exactly why I left Japan after my first teaching gig. Taught in a public Junior High school and girls would come to school with bags under their eyes from an all-night "rendezvous" and still come to class dressed as sluts in school uniform and all that just to buy the lastest trinkets and fashions. My very first day of teaching and barely walked onto the school grounds when I was greeted with a girl grabb'n my arse.

I dread even going to Japan for visa runs, my disgust with everything about that country is....well, I could go on forever. I may be judgemental and generalizing, but I studied enough to minor in all things Japanese and lived there for a year so it's based on knowledge and experience.

Many Asian countries are influenced by the U.S. and other western countries (regretably), but I would rather that then emulate Japan...

Vollrath · Joined: 29 May 2003

well anything involving sex and "preteen" girls or boys is indeed disturbing and sick, but the whole taboo of under-18 sex is ridiculous. how many of you were under 18 when you first had sex?

Kyrei · Joined: 22 Jan 2003

happeningthang · Joined: 26 Apr 2003

kimchi_pizza · Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:40 pm Post subject:

Vollrath · Joined: 29 May 2003

RACETRAITOR · Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea

You'll know it when you see it. Dirty old man with 15-year-old girl, disturbing. 18-year-old boy knobbing his 17-year-old girlfriend, okay.

Kyrei · Joined: 22 Jan 2003

eamo · Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

Japan seems to be a nation fascinated with teeny (or even pre-teen!!) sexual fantasies. I would like to see the stats on underage rape or child sexual abuse from Japan. Just to see if all this fascination translates into major pedophilia.

I lived in Japan for a short time. Even in the small country city where I worked the video stores were full of soft-core porn. The majority of it was schoolgirl or teen fantasy stuff. And a large proportion of that was simulated rape and bondage.

I know Japanese men like their girls to be 'cute' but where is the line?

RACETRAITOR · Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea

I think that's creepy to fantasise about. Sure nobody can tell you what should turn you on, but some things are dangerous. Especially if you're a teacher.

Tell me if you really think it's okay for a guy to get turned on by an eleven-year-old girl:
http://images.tabulas.com/16322/m/saaya_irie.jpg

Kyrei · Joined: 22 Jan 2003

ariellowen · Joined: 19 Apr 2006

trubadour · Joined: 03 Nov 2006

Where to begin? The social contract??

Would I be far wrong if I called this kind of photography pornograhic? It's not educational is it?! The photos are designed to be sexy. She is not advertising underware, is she?

The whole thing about what is sexy is complex - no one can dispute that.

However, on the one hand there is beauty, pure beauty, which if it is captured in art is then to do with aesthetics, pure and simple. And aestetics are pure and simple. The beautiful man and the beautiful woman are beautiful in a way that is beyond sexual attraction. The form is beautiful, not sexy.

Pornography is not about beauty.

Beauty itself is - it has nothing to do with what is provocative. Pornography is provocative. Porn is provocative because it is taboo in someway. It is provocative because it is taboo.

In fact, porn is taboo by definition. Whatever is taboo, if it is linked to some form of sexual arousal, is porn. If not, it is comedy, or blasphemy, or some such.

Today's pornography is often supposed to represent the degraded morality of modern society or, more often, the extent that society has become complacent or complicit in the degradation of 'moral' [in the tabloids: 'innocent'] individuals.

In fact, it merely fulfills the function of transgression of the accepted standards of supposed moral decency. Its 'value' is in what we usually accept/except to be hidden, forgotten.

However, we sometimes like to be reminded of our instincts. We are often excited, (read also frightened, disgusted) by those instincts that are dangerous or anti-social (which is the same thing); and by those that are merely transgressive.

Freud told us all this long ago: What is 'transgressive' is testament only to our acceptance of what society says is proper. The confusion that arises is from tension between accepted moral codes, which serve to inspire as much as prohibit (e.g the law) and base desire, which can never hold to such ideals. It shows only how much we sacrifice to live in an ordered, organised, secular, society. Nietzsche and Foucault showed us that.