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Bill O'Reilly: Bully Propagandist
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EFLtrainer



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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:18 pm    Post subject: Bill O'Reilly: Bully Propagandist Reply with quote

Study Proves Bill O�Reilly Nothing More Than Fifth Grade Bully

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The IU researchers found that O'Reilly called a person or a group a derogatory name once every 6.8 seconds, on average, or nearly nine times every minute during the editorials that open his program each night.

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"It's obvious he's very big into calling people names, and he's very big into glittering generalities," said Mike Conway, assistant professor in the IU School of Journalism. "He's not very subtle. He's going to call people names, or he's going to paint something in a positive way, often without any real evidence to support that viewpoint."[..]

Using analysis techniques first developed in the 1930s by the Institute for Propaganda Analysis, Conway, Grabe and Grieves found that O'Reilly employed six of the seven propaganda devices nearly 13 times each minute in his editorials. His editorials also are presented on his Web site and in his newspaper columns.


The scariest notion? That according to the 2005 Annenberg Public Policy Center survey, 40 percent of respondents considered O'Reilly to be a journalist.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a hilarious sketch on TV last night, where Bill O'Reilly was seen claiming that anybody who disagreed could come on his show and he'd treat them with respect. Then another clip was shown of him screaming at and bullying his interviewee. Really funny.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats why I turned down Harvard. Confused
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two minutes of HATE with Bill Blow Hard O'Really.

"Vote" with the remote & TURN OFF YOUR TV Idea
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EFLtrainer



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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher? Stevie? Other neo-con nutcases? Where are you? You were all over the thread about Fox being propaganda defending this crap... where are you now when faced with FACTS?
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enns



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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this a joke? Media Matters handled this study. Yes, the radically left-wing group that hates O'Reilly, Media Matters. How can you claim this comes from an unbiased source? And look at what they define as an "insult." If you refer to someone as a "centrist", you are guilty of name-calling. This study isn't credible.

If you want to present "facts" don't do it from your propaganda machines, EFL. You cannot claim that Media Matters, Move On, or anything else funded by George Soros(*cough* Indiana University) is any more credible than Foxnews. But I guess people only believe what suits their agendas.

Keep making these Foxnews threads, and we will keep beating them down. I'm assuming you'll come back hurling personal insults as you usually do when presented with facts...... [/i]
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

igotthisguitar wrote:
Two minutes of HATE with Bill Blow Hard O'Really.

"Vote" with the remote & TURN OFF YOUR TV Idea



Rense.com is a hate site for real.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

enns wrote:
Is this a joke? Media Matters handled this study. Yes, the radically left-wing group that hates O'Reilly, Media Matters. How can you claim this comes from an unbiased source? And look at what they define as an "insult." If you refer to someone as a "centrist", you are guilty of name-calling. This study isn't credible.

If you want to present "facts" don't do it from your propaganda machines, EFL. You cannot claim that Media Matters, Move On, or anything else funded by George Soros(*cough* Indiana University) is any more credible than Foxnews. But I guess people only believe what suits their agendas.

Keep making these Foxnews threads, and we will keep beating them down. I'm assuming you'll come back hurling personal insults as you usually do when presented with facts...... [/i]


Couldn't agree more.
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EFLtrainer



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

enns wrote:
Is this a joke? Media Matters handled this study. Yes, the radically left-wing group that hates O'Reilly, Media Matters. How can you claim this comes from an unbiased source? And look at what they define as an "insult." If you refer to someone as a "centrist", you are guilty of name-calling. This study isn't credible.

If you want to present "facts" don't do it from your propaganda machines, EFL. You cannot claim that Media Matters, Move On, or anything else funded by George Soros(*cough* Indiana University) is any more credible than Foxnews. But I guess people only believe what suits their agendas.

Keep making these Foxnews threads, and we will keep beating them down. I'm assuming you'll come back hurling personal insults as you usually do when presented with facts...... [/i]


Media matters? This was a university study. Grow up. Soros? Get a life. Quit lying. Lying is bad. To wit, liar (You, too, fiveeagles. BTW, don't you go to hell for lying?):

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Editors" This study, published in the academic journal Journalism Studies, was conducted and released without any involvement of any special interest group. The researchers received no grant funding for this study. Additional data, charts and the full text of the study are available online at http://journalism.indiana.edu/papers/oreilly.html.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hannity: Bullshoot propagandist. Rocky TKOs the mouth.

Watch all five. I did. Here's the breakdown: Hannity answered ONE question with anything like an answer. Every other answer was either a straw man argument, a non-answer outright, or a deflection of the question to imply fault lay with Dems.

Anderson to Hannity Q1: Don't you expect more from President than going on vacation when given a briefing about AQ seeking to attack in US?

Hannity: Clinton didn't get him when give the chance. (Ignores Clinton was following the law.)

Non-answer; deflection.

Anderson to Hannity Q2: Risk of death for Iraqis 58 times greater than in 18 months before invasion. Are Iraqis better off now?

Hannity: We are liberators. Iran and Al Queda will take over. Will attack US.

Non-answer; deflection; straw man.

Anderson rebuttal: Our National Intelligence Council: our occupation is increasing terrorism.

Anderson to Hannity Q3: 61% of Iraqis favor attacks on US forces, 79% say invasion/presence has had negative impact. How can you presumptuous on behalf of Iraqis to say we should be there when they want us the hell out?

Hannity: - Situation better in North for Kurds. (True, and pre-war, not due to war.) - Better in South and Anbar. (False.) Problem only in Sunni Traingle. (False.) Plays troop tape of five or so troops saying "get out" doesn't support troops. (Non-answer.) Straw man: you need to stop obsession with Bush (Gopher a Hannity fan? and help troops win.)

Anderson rebuttal: The best way to support our troops and get them home.

Anderson to Hannity Q4: Do you agree with Scowcrofts pre-war assessment? (The war will divert our efforts in war on terror, which is exactly what we see now.)

Hannity: straw man: I've researched you. You don't call for removal of Dems for voting for the war. (Straw man non-answer; deflection. Ignores the fact the White House also lied to Congress.)

Hannity Q1 to Anderson: Why don't you call for the removal of Dems? (Ignores source of intelligence, i.e. lies from WH. Correct in that so many didn't do independent research nor read the document provided.)

Anderson: I would ask each two questions: Did you read the assessment provided to Congress? If not, why not?

Hannity: Would you seek their removal?

Anderson: No. This was the Pres. getting up time after time after time talking about WMDs, (etc., etc.) Bill of goods. (The pres. made the case for war, not Dems.)

Answers question. (Without full knowledge of the actions, is it fair to seek their removal? Are Dems (Congress) responsible for providing intelligence? No. Did Dems seek the war? No. Comments mine.)

Hannity Q2 to Anderson: (Straw man Your I hate Bush Tour/part-time mayor, full time protester.) Do you think it is right for you to stand with Cindy Sheehan who says terrible, incindiary things about the pres.?

Anderson: I've heard you say incendiary things, but I am pleased to be here on this stage to address these issues. I don't agree with those things (specific characterizations presented by Hannity),... I saw a Hispanic family, the father just became a citizen a few months ago, and they say Bush must be held accountable.

(Supposed to support the idea that being against Bush isn't a whacko agenda? Agrees with message, if not rhetoric. Indirect answer to Q.)

Hannity rebuttal: No matter what you ask him, he goes back to the same talking point. (Straw man and outright lie.)

Hannity Q3 to Anderson: You oppose PA, NSA surveillance, support surrender. (Irrelevant, straw man, flt lie.) Give us 5 ideas for success in Iraq.

Anderson: 1. Get out of Iraq 2. Finish Afghanistan and focus on Al Queda. 3. Work with other nations. 4. Non-US peace-keepers. AL Queda started attacking US because US was occupying Saudi Arabia. (Read Looming Tower - Lawrence Wright)

Hannity Q4 to Anderson: I want to give him another opportunity. (Ignores that he answered the question.) I want 4 things in this country to keep us safer.

Anderson: Only 4 - 5% are Al Queda. Get out. 5. Stop kidnapping and disappearing people and stop motivating them to attack.

(Didn't seem to realize Hannity changed the question ("No. 5." ) or ignored it.)

Audience Q1: Effect of attacking each other on middle ground?

Anderson: shouldn't do it.

Hannity: People shouldn't attack president in war time; shouldn't decry war atrocities by our troops. Shocked

Audience Q2: What does support the troops mean?

Hannity: Let me tell you what it doesn't mean. Doesn't mean not funding troops with latest funding bill taht was vetoed. Dems have withheld funding. Shocked Etc.

Complete non-answer.

Anderson: Get thme out of Iraq. Use them correctly by going after AQ. Give them appropriate benefits and health care upon return.

Answered Q.

Audience Q3: What does "success" mean in Iraq?

Anderson: I supported Iraq I. I would have supported intervention during genocide. I am not an appeaser on these issues. Success *was* protecting Kurds, no-fly zones, full cooperation from Iraqi, inspections being completed. What if we had let them finish? (History review: Inspectors stated 95% certainty of no WMDs prior to inspection and requested 3 - 6 more months. This comment mine.)

Hannity: Success will be to leave only when Iraqis are able to protect themselves against the insurgency.

Audience Q4: If you were president for one day right now, what one thing would you do regarding Iraq?

Hannity: If we don't win this war, we will face consequences for decades to come. (Fear-mongering, non-answer.) I would do everything financially to fund the troops, give them equipment because the Dems have been denying it for so long.

(This is a lie, of course. Current funding of troops is not affected by vetoed legislation.)

Anderson: Go after and defeat Al Queda; develop alternative fuels to get US off oil so there is no incentive to make war for oil as we have in Iraq.

Audience Q5:

Anderson: Bill Richardson. Battling Global Warming, was Amb to UN, supports international law, was Sec. of Energy.

Hannity: Anyone but "her." (Slur, essentially.)

Audience Q6: What is greatest threat to US values and way of life.

Hannity: everything we have talked about tonight. Al Queda is planning to attack us again. (All the AQ rhetoric.) Terrorism plus nuclear energy. (Fear-mongering.)

Anderson: Live by our values. We will face enemies always. We have to protect American security not by taking long vacations and disregarding daily briefs (The now-famous you CYA'd, now you can go comment by Bush.)

(Straw man, sort of. True, actually.)

We must maintain our values: not torture, not disappear people. Info gotten via torture outweighed by undermining of our values and reputation (Gen. Jack ??).


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

...ad.

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EFLtrainer



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

enns wrote:
I lied. Why did you point it out? Waaah!


FYI: I decided in the months leading up to the election to fight fire with fire. Deal with it. You lie, I say so. Get it?
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Vicissitude



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bill O'Reilly is what you get when you cross a hot headed Irishman with a humourless Italian mamma mia who's spends too much time at mass.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

enns wrote:
Grow up? Get a life? Liar? I was hoping you would come back with more cutting personal attacks. But still, with three denigrating remarks in one line you have O'Reilly beaten in spades. Well done. See you on your next anti-fox/god/bush thread.


haha....so true to form.
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have any of you canadian knuckleheads EVEN seen O'Reilly? I guess not.
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