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MissSeoul
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Somewhere in America
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 Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: Barak Obama for next president of America !! |
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I think America need some radical change, someone who can put Arab over Israel need to be the next president of America. I understand Israel's right of exist, but every U.S presidents give SO MUCH favoritism to Israel over Arab, this should change.
As you may know, the contribution $$$ Barak Obama got is as much as Hillary Clinton got, that made everyone surprise including politicians in Washington, average contribution Obama got was $ 250 from each individual, so to get about $ 22 millions, there are hundreds, thousands average citizens.
The next president should be from Democratic Party, America need new face, the face we never seen before, that's Barak Obama. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| MissSeoul wrote: |
| America need new face, the face we never seen before, that's Barak Obama |
A new face? By the time of the election Americans will be tired of having seen Barack's face so much.
Have you seen much of this face lately?
AWOL
Rudy has the lowest of the low in terms of attention right now, puzzling low since he will have the finances and political backing to seize the Republican nomination when he joins the race next year or late this year, as the true new face in the campaign.
Admittedly, it will be the same old, same old in terms of the reality of backroom politics. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: Barak Obama for next president of America !! |
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| MissSeoul wrote: |
I think America need some radical change, someone who can put Arab over Israel need to be the next president of America. I understand Israel's right of exist, but every U.S presidents give SO MUCH favoritism to Israel over Arab, this should change.
As you may know, the contribution $$$ Barak Obama got is as much as Hillary Clinton got, that made everyone surprise including politicians in Washington, average contribution Obama got was $ 250 from each individual, so to get about $ 22 millions, there are hundreds, thousands average citizens.
The next president should be from Democratic Party, America need new face, the face we never seen before, that's Barak Obama. |
I've never heard Obama say anything about putting Arabic interests above Israeli interests?
Barak Obama is a very interesting candidate.. but this idea he's all about Arabic interests is what would make him completely unelectable.
Sounds like a right-wing thing to say about him to get him out of the race as a serious contender. Maybe you need to look back on the source for that comment of his if it even exists at all.
I do think Barak Obama would be an interesting potential president for many other reasons though. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
| I've never heard Obama say anything about... |
I think this poster knows little or nothing about American politics or Obama, Tiger Beer.
I share his or her enthusiasm for Obama, though. Still, he is most certainly not a radical promoting "radical change" but rather a moderate, a bipartisan -- and a voice of sanity; a welcome change from the W. Bush Administration and indeed a welcome change from many previous administrations. He might awaken the kind of optimism many of us associate with Kennedy.
Someone here showed Obama voicing idealistic thoughts on American foreign policy. In spite of that, I still support him above all others at present.
Have no idea what MissSeoul describes here, however. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| Tiger Beer wrote: |
| I've never heard Obama say anything about... |
I think this poster knows little or nothing about American politics or Obama, Tiger Beer.
I share his or her enthusiasm for Obama, though. Still, he is most certainly not a radical promoting "radical change" but rather a moderate, a bipartisan -- and a voice of sanity; a welcome change from the W. Bush Administration and indeed a welcome change from many previous administrations. He might awaken the kind of optimism many of us associate with Kennedy.
Someone here showed Obama voicing idealistic thoughts on American foreign policy. In spite of that, I still support him above all others at present.
Have no idea what MissSeoul describes here, however. |
The poster is a troll...she's not Korean. |
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MissSeoul
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Somewhere in America
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| Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
| MissSeoul wrote: |
| America need new face, the face we never seen before, that's Barak Obama |
A new face? By the time of the election Americans will be tired of having seen Barack's face so much.
Have you seen much of this face lately?
AWOL
Rudy has the lowest of the low in terms of attention right now, puzzling low since he will have the finances and political backing to seize the Republican nomination when he joins the race next year or late this year, as the true new face in the campaign.
Admittedly, it will be the same old, same old in terms of the reality of backroom politics. |
I think Rudy is going to get nomination for Republic Party, I think he can be a good president, but his character doesn't fit well for president, his adultery while he was still married to his 2nd wife and his divorce was described by a Baptist minister as * Divorce on Steroids * |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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I actually like Rudy compared to other Republicans. Mainly because he doesn't cater to the religious right and the gun nuts as much as other Republicans. I particularly like his fiscal conservatism (something we haven't seen from an actual Republican in a long, long time- despite all the talk about Republicans being fiscally conservative).
However, his plan for Iraq is basically the Bush plan.. he wants to put more American targets into Baghdad to walk around with the big sign that says 'shoot an American here' plan.
Even worse, its doubles as an already monstrorous fiscal disaster for the U.S.
In short, the only good thing Rudy would be good for, he falls way short with his expansion of Iraq involvement and probably doubling or tripling our already worse debt in national history.
In short, Rudy's ONLY strengh suddenly becomes mute. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 1:41 am Post subject: |
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The Democrats see the small picture ok but they clueless about the big picture. Joe Biden and Christopher Dodd in fact have the good ideas of how to handle Iraq. However they still don't really think the US is in a war. That's their problem. They have faith in the UN that is their problem. They are afraid to do things to protect US national security just cause they are afraid it will offend other nations. That is their problem.
Tigerbeer what is the difference between Iraq and Afghanistan now? Don't the insurgents in both nations fight for the same thing?
The US doesn't have the worse debt in US history, and Bush't tax cuts aren't the cause of the US budget deficit. |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:28 am Post subject: |
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MissSeoul:
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| I understand Israel's right of exist, but every U.S presidents give SO MUCH favoritism to Israel over Arab, this should change. |
Although Obama has squeezed butt cheeks with the likes of Sharpton and SnoopDog, so far he hasn't done it with Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam, so your post sounds like troll bait.
But let's give you the benefit of the doubt. You presuppose we don't favor any Arab nations. Wrong. For decades, the U.S. has given millions to Egypt and Jordan and is always trying to stay in tight with the Saudis.
Further, many Arab states don't deserve our support because they aid terrorists. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 7:51 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Tigerbeer what is the difference between Iraq and Afghanistan now? Don't the insurgents in both nations fight for the same thing? |
3000 Americans have died already in Iraq as opposed to 300 in Afghanistan.
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| The US doesn't have the worse debt in US history, and Bush't tax cuts aren't the cause of the US budget deficit. |
Tax cuts? The deficit is from pumping billions (if not trillions) of dollars into Iraq.
Even if a person was obsessed about spending every bit of that money on a War on Terror.. there are hundreds if not thousands of sufficiently more effective and effecient ways to do that.
Throwing a bunch of bodies on the ground of a hostile city like Baghdad is probably one of the most ludicrious and ineffective ways to fight any modern war with unseen enemies, let alone a global war on terror. |
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W.T.Carl
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Obama as President? Keep dreamin'. He doesn't have a snow balls chance against Clinton's attack machine. Barak Obama: sound like the guy who sold me a Slurpie yesterday at the 7-11. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Barak Hussein Obama, the whole name says it all. The Repubs will probably use hs full name frequently. How many votes is he going to get in the South - very darn few and most of them black. What about the Mountain west? A few from liberals, darn few. America is not ready to elect a black. Its not nice but its a fact.
With he and Hillary savaging each other one might expect the Repubs ro pull it off again.
Remember John Dean - who's he. Obama will be the same. |
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gang ah jee
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| W.T.Carl wrote: |
| Barak Obama: sound like the guy who sold me a Slurpie yesterday at the 7-11. |
Yes, it's true that bigots probably won't vote for him.
As for contrarian's 'Americans aren't ready for a black president', I'm not sure if he has any special insight as a Canadian, but the numbers don't seem to bear this out.
Of course, most people who wouldn't vote for a black guy also wouldn't vote for a democrat. |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Yes, let's keep the bigots firmly in the Republican camp. They don't even bother getting off the sofa to vote anyway.
About Obama. I think he is a yes, no proposition. By that I mean that either he will take off and become a successful populist or he just won't get anywhere and will be another Jesse Jackson -- pidgeon holed as one thing or another, depending on your vantage point.
But if he does catch fire, I believe that he will need a lot of protection from the kooks such as W.T etc...... Or he could go the way of Bobby Kennedy or MLK. Glad to see the secret service has started protecting him. The earliest any candidate for president has ever been given federal protection.
Obama has a message and he has the ability to communicate in a heartfelt, common way to people of all kinds. He's lived and used his experiences to a "good" end. He'd reach out to the world, not punch out at the world. Exactly what America needs in the foreign policy arena.
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Guiliani 2008.
Yes, Rudy has a rough personal history. So what? Bill Clinton was no angel either. |
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