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doggyji
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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| wo buxihuan hanguoren wrote: |
| Funny though how we will always say 'Korean' as opposed to 'Asian' - says a lot between the lines I think. |
Huh? Funny how we will always say Asian as opposed to human. Funny how we will always say dog as opposed to mammal. Like this?  |
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SuperFly
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| doggyji wrote: |
| wo buxihuan hanguoren wrote: |
| Funny though how we will always say 'Korean' as opposed to 'Asian' - says a lot between the lines I think. |
Huh? Funny how we will always say Asian as opposed to human. Funny how we will always say dog as opposed to mammal. Like this? |
Why you humans always gotta bring the dog into the conversation? What did we ever do to you? Oh wait, there was that one time a dog ate his dead master when the poor dog was stuck inside the house wit da corpse...back in 1964... |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:52 am Post subject: Re: WHAT PREJUDICE DO INTERRACIAL COUPLES ENCOUNTER HERE? |
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My wife is Chinese; I'm American. We've been married nearly a decade now and happily so. She's a beauty with brains from Hangzhou but her skin's a bit darker--a healthy complexion, I say.
It seems like whenever we go somewhere, we are treated well as customers in stores. But the minute she goes off on her own she comes back with stories of woe. Whenever people ask her where she's from and she says "China," they grunt, sneer, or go silent. I've witnessed it happen from a distance on occasion.
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When you witness that, do you consider it to be idotic, or annoying? |
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doggyji
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| SuperFly wrote: |
| doggyji wrote: |
| wo buxihuan hanguoren wrote: |
| Funny though how we will always say 'Korean' as opposed to 'Asian' - says a lot between the lines I think. |
Huh? Funny how we will always say Asian as opposed to human. Funny how we will always say dog as opposed to mammal. Like this? |
Why you humans always gotta bring the dog into the conversation? What did we ever do to you? Oh wait, there was that one time a dog ate his dead master when the poor dog was stuck inside the house wit da corpse...back in 1964... |
And doggyji was born in the year of the dog.  |
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Seoul_Star
Joined: 04 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| What forms of prejudice, whether attitudes or behavior, have you encountered here in Korea? Do you find it worse than anywhere else you've lived or visited? |
Answer to question 1. Mostly just dirty looks, poor service, verbal insults, and the occasional drunk attempt at assault.
Answer to question 2. I'd have to compare it to rural China, not too rural, but semi-rural and uncivilized China probably comes closes by comparison. I was once on a City tour of Xi'an and our bright and smiling tour guide received numerous verbal insults from Chinese men through out the day, because it was not immediately apparent to them that she was our tour guide. After that experience, she picked us up at our hotel the next day wearing a full-blown guide outfit and hat. I'd say that I basically feel the same in Korea and thus have now discontinued serious dating activities with the local populace.
Note that I have also lived in Mexico city, Nicaragua, Tokyo, Osaka, Hong Kong, Bangkok, Los Angeles, Vancouver, San Diego and a few more, so I cannot compare Korea against ALL of the rest of the world, just the few places I've managed to settle down in for more than a year at a time. |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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| they grunt, sneer, or go silent. |
F%$# 'em.
Look, there are many people in every country who are losers. They like nothing better to do than put other people down for being more adventurous. But, they are just the sour cats, and really do seem to have suckful lives. And the best way for dealing with sour cats is to be better than them, in your own mind.
We must learn about what people are like so when situations happen we know what to say and how to deal with them.
Yeah, what we would do and say in hindsight is not possible in real-time, but there's one thing I won't do now is idly sit by while someone screws with my head.
Learning the local language will help.
아줌마 하고 이야기 다 끝냈으니까 다행이네요.
I don't know if it's exactly the right phrasing but it's grammatically pure for an understood put-down.
Failing that, and if you must sit next to a person like that, you could ask them something about themselves. Whether in English or Korean will make no difference.
Or, just ignore them. They'll never have had a chance to meet you. |
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lowpo
Joined: 01 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| they grunt, sneer, or go silent. |
F%$# 'em.
Look, there are many people in every country who are losers. They like nothing better to do than put other people down for being more adventurous. But, they are just the sour cats, and really do seem to have suckful lives. And the best way for dealing with sour cats is to be better than them, in your own mind.
We must learn about what people are like so when situations happen we know what to say and how to deal with them.
Yeah, what we would do and say in hindsight is not possible in real-time, but there's one thing I won't do now is idly sit by while someone screws with my head.
Learning the local language will help.
아줌마 하고 이야기 다 끝냈으니까 다행이네요.
I don't know if it's exactly the right phrasing but it's grammatically pure for an understood put-down.
Failing that, and if you must sit next to a person like that, you could ask them something about themselves. Whether in English or Korean will make no difference.
Or, just ignore them. They'll never have had a chance to meet you. |
I have been married to my Chinese wife for 3 years now. So far the only racist remarks that we have incountered has been in America.
Just about all Korean's that have meet my wife has made her more than welcome in KOrea. MOst of the time they can't stop talking to her.
When we are walking around town we will have women glance at us for several minutes.
Most of the time the Korean's think she is Korean. |
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Vancouver
Joined: 12 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| IN CANADA YES, BUT IN KOREA NO. |
now that's new
| wo buxihuan hanguoren wrote: |
Anyhoo, I don't hate Koreans - I just don't like it here. There are better places in Asia to live in fo sho - just my opinion. |
and you're still in Korea...why? |
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shaunew
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Calgary
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I have been married to my Korean wife for almost 2 years. She is 6 months pregnant. In Canada the only people who stare at us our other Asians. Other people pay no attention, but Asians just stare like crazy. We will be back in Korea in a week, but 7 months ago when we were there just some stares and drunk adjoiss (spelling?) made comments, but I'm 6'1 and tower over them so they shut up fast. With a baby I hope nothing will be said. I think it would be sad to make comments about a baby. I hope Koreans are better then that. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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i can count 2 things in the 5 years we have been going out and both were basically drunken remarks which i can just brush off...
To be honest it seems most people don't care....
As with some people on this thread i had A LOT MORE trouble back home as an international couple than i ever did here...
maybe it is because my Korean is quite fluent so i can difuse situations easily or people see i have made some effort with korea but I have no trouble at all... |
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excitinghead
Joined: 18 Jul 2005
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2 verbal incidents in 6 years with my Korean girlfriend and then wife from 2004, and both from obviously mentally-handicapped people. Nothing in the last 3 years.
Actually I have the opposite problem now, because in the last couple of weeks my 11-month year old daughter has gone from a little overwhelmed, wary of strangers type when we're outside to a chatterbox who won't stop waving at everyone. Now I feel like I'm (or she's) famous, with so many Koreans talking about her as we pass and wanting to touch her. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, there is prejudice in Korea, I don't notice it, my wife does, she is Korean. I've only ever noticed it once. Though I have experienced people who seem not to want to deal with me because the ycan't understand me, usually they are smiling and waving me off, I don't consider that to be prejudice. Mostly my wife complains she gets better prices from street vendors when I'm not with her. I don't know if that is racism or business sense. I know in the used car business an uneducated consumer increases the margin.
There is prejudice in the US. I see it, my wife has only ever experienced it once. My son has several stories of prejudice.
Racism and prejudice exists, there is no getting around it. The only thing to do really is to accept that some folks are ignorant, and hope it doesn't get physical.
I live in Florida, some of the older folks seems to have a "latent prejudice" that softens a bit when properly confronted. Sometimes I say things like "did you really mean to say that" or "was that a little bit of your grandaddy talkin' there". They seem to appreciate the corrections more than resent it. One old guy from the Mountains of Alabama actually thank me for helping him understand his prejudices.
I think we all have our own prejudices to deal with everyday, some more than others. There are even those who would pre-judge a person who just can't communicate as with them a being racist.
Enough for now.
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| We've never had any problems here, but we've had friends who were korean female/Foreign male have serious issues, including physical attacks. Everytime we hear or see the aftermath(one time our friend's wife was attacked by drunk k-girls and her face badly clawed) we give thanks that Koreans generally seem happy with our Canadian female/Korean male pairing. |
Par for the course I guess - Koreans are racist in general, not all, but in general - anyone that denies this is either an idiot or a Korean.
Funny though how we will always say 'Korean' as opposed to 'Asian' - says a lot between the lines I think.
Anyhoo, I don't hate Koreans - I just don't like it here. There are better places in Asia to live in fo sho - just my opinion. |
Go home.
And Steve, this topic has been done before, in the last two weeks even, STFF. |
I'll second that one! McGarrett doesn't care whether other people experience racism or not. I'll bet most of the stuff he's said about himself on this forum are lies. He thinks he's a hard***, but what he's a *****.
On top of that he's made some pretty demeaning comments about Korean woman. I guess what comes around goes around.
Now go whine to the mods about my signature or avatar again Steve, I know you want to. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Koreans might be Xenophobic, but that does not make one a racist.
If nothing else i feel i am being positvely discriminated here in Korea. All these opportunities and chances foreigners get.
If i would be a foreigner in Belgium, getting these chances would be 1/1.000.000.
Foreigners have it good in Korea, the only thing you have to do is keep your eyes and ears open, have respect for your surroundings and only complain when it is really necessary. |
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mrsquirrel
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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Never here.
Had a few incidents in Thailand where people said some pretty harsh things in Thai to use. One ended up getting a slapping from the biker group I rode with which I still feel bad about today.
Most of the people we have met have been positive. Our trip to Scotland a year or so ago was amusing going around some old churches in the borders. Got asked by a little old lady if my missus was a mail order bride or not and could she speak English. The old dear didn't mean anything bad by in and I enjoyed the cup of tea and digestive biscuit we had together. |
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