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Keepongoing
Joined: 13 Feb 2003
Location: Korea
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 Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:27 pm Post subject: Are Korean Girls Sexually Active at a Much Older Age |
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Are Korean Girls Sexually Active at a Much Older Age than their Western counterparts?
I have had 22 year olds tell me that they have never kissed anyone. I have no reason not to believe them. My friends and I have had conversations about this and they believe me to be quite misinformed. But, I do think that in all fairness they are far more conservative than most in the West.
In the West junior high is the common starting point. I base that on my own experience and what friends told me when in Junior High.
Anyway, what is your opinion on this? |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, you are misinformed. Don't fall for that line about how all Korean women are so pure and viginal as the white driven snow. Why do you think there are so many motels around? For the Koreans on business??? hahahahahaha!!! I remember some poster on here saying that some Korean man actually told him that is why there are so many love motels in Seoul. Yeah right. A business man in Seoul needs a motel when he lives here. Another big hahaha and a  |
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ChuckECheese
Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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They are sexually active just like any other girls around the world.
I agree with princess. Don't fall for that BS. |
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cdninkorea
Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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He's asking if they get started later, not if they never get started at all.
And I think his hunch is right- asking around Korean friends and girlfriends, everyone has said no one except the "really naughty" ones have sex in high school. Contrast this to our culture, where the opposite trend is in effect.
That doesn't mean they don't catch up later though. |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, you are misinformed. Don't fall for that line about how all Korean women are so pure and viginal as the white driven snow. Why do you think there are so many motels around? |
I think that your logic is a little off. Have you ever seen a high school or middle scool student in a love motel? Furthermore do high school students even have 20,000 Won for a love motel? When I school students have s e x they usually do it in DVD rooms. Love Motels are mainly for the over 30 crowd. But there are definitly college students that use them. |
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seoulsucker
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Sometimes this attitude gets carried too far. I have a 29 year old friend who claimed she didn't know what a 비지니스 was, has never kissed a man, and didn't know that massage parlors offered full-course service in Korea.
It's one thing to try and remain pure, but to claim that kind of false naivety takes away from the charm. |
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excitinghead
Joined: 18 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| seoulsucker wrote: |
Sometimes this attitude gets carried too far. I have a 29 year old friend who claimed she didn't know what a 비지니스 was, has never kissed a man, and didn't know that massage parlors offered full-course service in Korea.
It's one thing to try and remain pure, but to claim that kind of false naivety takes away from the charm. |
It may be false naivety, but more likely its genuine. While times are definately a changing in Korea, I've met plently of "couples" who've been together 8 years or so and have revealed to my wife, their friend, that they haven't even kissed. When drunk with them, I obnoxiously tell them that their "relationship" is pointless, and dare them to tell me how they are different to me and my female friends. Sober, I'd feel the same way but would be less vocal about it.
I'm doing my MA thesis on why Koreans generally stay at home until they're married, and most Koreans seem pretty shocked, but ultimately accepting, of the fact that its not some ingrained part of Korean culture but simple economics that keep them at home. So the sex issue is related, but 20 year-old girls (and even guys) don't open up much on that issue to 31-year old white guys, so a Western woman here with one drunken night out with female Korean friends probably knows much more on the issue than I ever will!
But having said that, its obvious to anyone that most high-school kids are too busy and tired to think about it much, and while of course Uni students use love-hotels, most of them rely every day on their 10-15,000 won a day pocket money from Mom and Dad to live on. I'm sure some amorous University couples choose sex at a love hotel over starving on that money, I would  , but regular visits at love hotels wouldn't be an option for most Koreans until they have jobs. |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: soul of Asia
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Exciting head, that is a joke. Maybe if they haven't even kissed after 8 years, they don't have romantic love. Maybe they are together for reasons other than love. Even Christians who wait until marriage to have sex, they still kiss while dating. And it doesn't take them 8 years to kiss, either. One of my Korean friends here is 28, and even though she is still a virgin, she told me when she was dating her ex-boyfriend who is a pastor, by the way, they kissed and did other things. 8 years? Either they are lying or not really in love or attracted to each other. Also, just for the record everyone, I am a whitey who DID NOT sleep with anyone in high school. That is slutty. Two girls who were best friends at my high school were knocked up together at 16, and they even brought their babies to school. I thought it was rather disgusting. |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| of the fact that its not some ingrained part of Korean culture but simple economics that keep them at home. |
Not so sure about that. In Gwangju one can get a place for 200,000 to 250,000 a month. Despite that there are still plenty of people with professional jobs living with their parents.
Furthermore if it was only about economics wouldn't more Americans be living with their parents. I think that most 20 something Americans would rather live in a beep hole than live with their parents. |
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JZer
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Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm sure some amorous University couples choose sex at a love hotel over starving on that money, I would , but regular visits at love hotels wouldn't be an option for most Koreans until they have jobs. |
Well, I can say that I have lived in a hotel before and I did not see many people under 40. I think the real question is about catching up. I wonder if the lack of sex at a young age leads to more marital infidelity. Interesting enough I am reading a book called Lust in Translation. The book is about indifelity in about 11 countries. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: Are Korean Girls Sexually Active at a Much Older |
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Are Korean Girls Sexually Active at a Much Older Age than their Western counterparts?
I have had 22 year olds tell me that they have never kissed anyone. I have no reason not to believe them. My friends and I have had conversations about this and they believe me to be quite misinformed. But, I do think that in all fairness they are far more conservative than most in the West.
In the West junior high is the common starting point. I base that on my own experience and what friends told me when in Junior High.
Anyway, what is your opinion on this? |
Korea in the eyes of some Westerners is similar to the West in the 1940s and 1950s. People are having sex, kissing, and dating, but on a smaller scale. Yes, there is a lot of prostitution, but it may mislead someone into think that Korea is not a conservative culture. It is quite conservative in comparison to the West in many ways. The youth and the adults I have spoken to, in general, do not discuss sex as openly as their Western counterparts. There is also the stereotype that many Koreans do this 100 days of dating and then getting married. The women hit this certain age and then hunt for a husband. There is also the stereotype of the Korean woman who procreates and the sex ends. Of course, that is a gross generalization, but there is that old attitudes regarding sex that are going away, but are still quite present. The OP shouldn't be surprised
at what he heard. Don't let the love motels and other things obscure the facts that the culture is still conservative.
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excitinghead
Joined: 18 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Exciting head, that is a joke. Maybe if they haven't even kissed after 8 years, they don't have romantic love. Maybe they are together for reasons other than love. Even Christians who wait until marriage to have sex, they still kiss while dating. And it doesn't take them 8 years to kiss, either. One of my Korean friends here is 28, and even though she is still a virgin, she told me when she was dating her ex-boyfriend who is a pastor, by the way, they kissed and did other things. 8 years? Either they are lying or not really in love or attracted to each other. Also, just for the record everyone, I am a whitey who DID NOT sleep with anyone in high school. That is slutty. Two girls who were best friends at my high school were knocked up together at 16, and they even brought their babies to school. I thought it was rather disgusting. |
That's what I'd saying, I called their relationship a joke too. But to be honest, that was the last couple I ever met like that, and that was a few years ago. And like I said, Koerans may have moved on. When I first came to Korea in 2000 I was in sleepy conservative Jinju, and it was just bizarre how the first thing so many of my wife's friends asked, when she told them that she'd secretly been living with me for 2 years, was "have you kissed?" I wonder if the Korean women there are still like that now. |
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JZer
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| There is more focus on marriage and children and social conventions. It is kind of like North America and Europe in the 1950s or 1940s. People also had sex in the 1950s, too. |
This is true. A Korean friend of mine asked me about marriage. I am not sure exactly but it had to do with dating to get married. He asked me whether when I first started dating someone, was I not thinking about marriage. At the beginning I don't even know the other person well so how can I think about marriage. He seemed to think that I should be thinking about marriage and I got the feeling that he thought that the purpose of dating was to lead to marriage. |
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excitinghead
Joined: 18 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| of the fact that its not some ingrained part of Korean culture but simple economics that keep them at home. |
Not so sure about that. In Gwangju one can get a place for 200,000 to 250,000 a month. Despite that there are still plenty of people with professional jobs living with their parents.
Furthermore if it was only about economics wouldn't more Americans be living with their parents. I think that most 20 something Americans would rather live in a beep hole than live with their parents. |
I admit culture plays a small role, but with the professional 20-somethings living at home I'd say its more what you're used to. I left home at 19 because I was going crazy living with my parents, and the move was best for all of us. But if I didn't have the money to, then I (and them) would have developed coping mechanisms. After 6 years of that, then I probably wouldn't feel the need to suddenly find my own place when I had the money either.
I haven't seen all cheap accomodation in Korea of course, but based on my experience you can't compare an American hole with a Korean one (ooer, should I rephrase that?). Some student accomodation in Korea...jeez, concrete floors, a tap as the shower, outside toilet...I'd rather stay at home too. All housework done and meals cooked by mother, free to stay out until 3 so long as I called her at 12 - Sounds great.
P.S. I forgot to mention, with the 2500 or 3000 an hour pay-rates at Family-Mart and places like that (5000 at bars), then most Uni students could only dream of a 200-250,000 won a month place.
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Zark
Joined: 12 May 2003
Location: Phuket, Thailand: Look into my eyes . . .
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| Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Don't forget that there are the things that Koreans admit or tell "foreigners" and then there is the real gritty beneath-the-surface Korea.
How many times have you asked a question of substance only to have the small group of Koreans you are talking to talk amongst themselves to decide what to tell the "foreigner"? How to put a positive spin on the answer?
Learn a little Korean and you will know the show they are putting on for you.
Understand - I am not pimping the Koreans - I certainly don't want to tell visitors to my country all about its failings and bad things either. Nor do I appreciate visitors to my country constantly pointing out its seamier side.
Give Koreans credit for being proud of their country - in a world of constant complaining and finger-pointing - maybe its not such a bad trait.
But - don't be taken in by all the claims of innocence. |
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