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Fidelity....it's a test....
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endo



Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:53 pm    Post subject: Fidelity....it's a test.... Reply with quote

Alright, in my opinion there are two main types of fidelity when it comes to reationships.

(1) People who don't actively seek out others and thus remain faithful to their partner. IMO, not very difficult to do.

(2) People who are in commited relationships, but have "outside forces" deliberately come on to them knowing full well they are in a relationship.

This is a true test.



Now I'm currently in a solid relationship and I've been tested on #2 before, and passed. I had to walk away and it was hard, but I passed.

However, now I'm being tested once again. And admittedly I'm not 100% innocent as there is some mild flirtation going on, but I love my girlfriend and don't want to be that kind of guy.

But why is the temptation of "sinful or immoral" sex so strong? You know it's wrong, but why is your body going all crazy and ish? Basically my heart and my mind is saying no, but my biological function is say "hell yeah!"


I've passed this test before and I'm quite sure I'll pass it again, but experiences like this have taught me that nobody can truely claim to be a moral and sound person unless they've been sufficiently tested.


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mateomiguel



Joined: 16 May 2005

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

godd*mn it man, why must you play with my heart like this?! And posting it up for the world to see!

Forget it, its over!
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: Fidelity....it's a test.... Reply with quote

endo wrote:


(1) People who don't actively seek out others and thus remain faithful to their partner. IMO, not very difficult to do.

(2) People who are in commited relationships, but have "outside forces" deliberately come on to them knowing full well they are in a relationship.


The only difference I see there is circumstances.

I'm married and I have no problem with mild flirting so long as the other person knows I totally wouldn't follow through on anything I'm saying.
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endo



Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mateomiguel wrote:
godd*mn it man, why must you play with my heart like this?! And posting it up for the world to see!

Forget it, its over!


yeah, shadup!

It's seriously sucks. Where were these girls when I was reading comic books in high school?

I actually think that by being able to make rational decisions like this, even when it goes against our biological instincts, we are able to seperate ourselves from the animlals and truely be human.
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mateomiguel



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do agree that it is a test, but is it a test for you or for your lover? If you went for it after a suitable time of denial to get yourself worked up, and your girl loved you truly, she would forgive you.

This is a test of her love, not yours.

Don't you want to find out what her reaction would be?

(mateomiguel, playing devil's advocate since 1997!)
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Yo!Chingo



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have any real feelings for this 2nd person?

Many people feel that even having romantic feelings or a deep connection to someone other than a family member when in a relationship with someone is cheating. I personally don't agree with that one.
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endo



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yo!Chingo wrote:
Do you have any real feelings for this 2nd person?

Many people feel that even having romantic feelings or a deep connection to someone other than a family member when in a relationship with someone is cheating. I personally don't agree with that one.


My feelings for the other girl are not emotional. But I think if they were, I would in a sense be cheating.

If you allow yourself to open up and have more than sexual feelings towards another person in a relationship, then yeah, I think you are being unfaithful.

And I'm not talking about a simple crush, but genuinely openening your heart to someone else.
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Ryst Helmut



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

endo wrote:
It's seriously sucks. Where were these girls when I was reading comic books in high school?


Kindergarten?


!shoosh,

Ryst
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JohnTeacher



Joined: 10 Mar 2007
Location: Ansan-Si, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
A French girl I used to know had a great attitude on this kind of thing. Her husband was an incurable flirt. He'd talk it up and play "eyes" with women all the time. But this really wise young woman had a great motto:

"As long as there's no touching...there's no foul! Once he touches someone...he's crossed the line."

A pretty sensible attitude. Of course, for the partner/spouse sitting on the sidelines...it takes a strong indivual...man or woman...who is secure enough to not get overly (or overtly) jealous.
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Richard Krainium



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryst Helmut wrote:
endo wrote:
It's seriously sucks. Where were these girls when I was reading comic books in high school?


Kindergarten?


!shoosh,

Ryst

Laughing ...I rarely laugh out loud... Laughing
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endo



Joined: 14 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ryst Helmut wrote:
endo wrote:
It's seriously sucks. Where were these girls when I was reading comic books in high school?


Kindergarten?


!shoosh,

Ryst


Screw you. Laughing
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steroidmaximus



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: GangWon-Do

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you sincerely follow your advice in #1, #2 shouldn't be an issue.

Takes two to tango baby; maybe you should examine just exactly what it is you call "mild flirtation".
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kat2



Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, hold out. The urge will fade. If you have to avoid the person for a while. If you do ahve to be around them (coworker or something) start to try and notice all their possibly annoying habits or bad traits. Think about all these things a lot. Soon, you won't be interested. It sounds wierd, but it works. Be strong, OP!
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jmbran11



Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: U.S.

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Men are so stupid! Don't you realize that the reason she wants you now is because you are taken. That's why these girls weren't around when you were single. We always want what we can't have. And when we get it, it doesn't seem so wonderful anymore.

When someone else has something, it starts looking attractive to us. I want the earings my friend wears because they look good on her. I want the car my colleague drives because it seems cooler than mine.

You seem like a good boyfriend, so women find that hard to resist. Go ahead and ruin your actual relationship, then see how many women are around to "tempt" you. Smile
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endo



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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jmbran11 wrote:
Men are so stupid! Don't you realize that the reason she wants you now is because you are taken.


Actually, I'm quite aware of that. Hence the comic book comment.
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