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freethought · Joined: 13 Mar 2005

I've been over the act so many times I don't care to remember. And despite recent changes, more need to be made. This case is the prime example:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2007/05/10/student-rugby.html

The kid who is 16, who is willing/capable of taking these actions in a public setting should NOT be treated as a young offender. Nor should he have his name withheld. He should be tried, held and exposed for the lowest piece of crap that he is.

The idea that you shouldn't name a young person who commits a crime is outdated and outmoded. That's especially the case for violent crime. The change needs to be made that upon conviction all records need to be unsealed, and all information made public. If the party charged takes a plea, the records should be released upon the judge agreeing to and pronouncing the sentence.

Violent crimes need to be treated in a very different way than they currently are as well.

Time for a change and to start naming names.

jinju · Joined: 22 Jan 2006

The change should be this: SCRAP IT.

freethought · Joined: 13 Mar 2005

would that be scrap it and replace it with nothing?

Yu_Bum_suk · Joined: 25 Dec 2004

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=86872

It's not just Canada - look at the above thread. Two 16-year-olds murder someone for fun and then can't be named. The thing I can't get about not naming them - everyone in their community and school must know who did it, so what's the point?

It sure makes the troubles I run into working with Korean kids look trivial.

jinju · Joined: 22 Jan 2006

The_Conservative · Joined: 15 Mar 2007

Octavius Hite · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 9:16 pm Post subject:

Sorry boys but you're all wrong. The use of adult trials and punishment should be monitored and overseen by multiple levels of the community (i.e judges, lawyers, prosecutors, social workers, etc).. There certainly are cases where children deserve adult treatment but they are few and far between.

Children make mistakes and we should help them pay for and recover from those mistakes. If you start saying a 16 year old can take resposibility for murder than he should be allowed to to vote, join the army, own a gun, etc etc. You can't say he's responsible enough for one thing but not all the other things that come with being an adult.

For another perspective go and watch this:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/whenkidsgetlife/

jinju · Joined: 22 Jan 2006

bleeding hearts. If a kid did an adult crime, he should pay adult time. And I don care how old he is. 12? 15? 16? throw him in the slammer and let him fend for himself. I know of much better things to do than to help criminals get on with their lives.

freethought · Joined: 13 Mar 2005

the adult crime for the adult crime is nonsense.

That said, unlike what someone else said, I want to be able to google someone and see if they've committed a crime, or post on a racist website etc. I think that's something that is not only fair, but should be the duty of every employer to do.

A 13 year old isn't an adult. I never said try anyone as an adult, btw. But in this crime the deliberate nature of the act, coupled with the fact that it was done in plain sight take it out of the realm of the ordinary, and into something else. I think the public, potential employers and potential schools have very right to know what this person did. To not know, hire him/admit him, and have him commit a similar action is unjustifiable.

I think all things are arbitrary, but 16 is a pretty good age to start enforcing harsher and more stringent protocols for crimes committed by minors.

jinju · Joined: 22 Jan 2006

Octavius Hite · Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: