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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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| jinju wrote: |
Well, Let's see...
Spidey 1 - kinda bad
Spidey 2 - really bad
I kinda saw the trend...didnt you?
For my money the weakest superhero franchise going today |
I disagree.
Spidey 1 - Really bad
Spidey 2 - Absolute *beep*. No redeeming moments.
Spiderman is on the same level as all other superhero movie franchises including Batman (except for Batman Begins). They are all bad beyond the level of noticeable difference. IE. It's like comparing -40 degrees with -41 degrees. Both are way too cold. |
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little mixed girl
Joined: 11 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 2:00 am Post subject: |
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i went down to COEX to see it the day after it came out.
it amused me. but then again i don't read the comic.
that dance was embarassing for all. |
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jeffkim1972
Joined: 10 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 2:10 am Post subject: |
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I would have to disagree. SM1,2,3 were all very well done. the all time worst has to be the initial tim Burton Batmans. By the way, i hate Tim Burton, not personally, but just his style of directing. Although i did like the Planet of the Apes, which no one else did.
Then perhaps Fantastic four (but FF2 looks awesome), then the Hulk were pretty average.
Superman was lame because there were too many plot holes and we are sick of Lex (even worse who portrayed him) and Parker Posey just needs to stick to playing disfunctional characters that exist in everyday life rather than villians and such (see Blade 3).
Batman Begins was great, but Batman really has no superpowers so your imagination is sort of limited.
Oh yeah, Catwoman was just senseless and not even worth mentioning.
But the best "Superhero" movie, if you can call it one, was Unbreakable.
The only thing i dont' like about spiderman is Kirsten Dunst. She's sort of ruins the whole thing as Liv Tyler did with the LOTR trilogy (god i hated her in that). |
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jinju
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 2:50 am Post subject: |
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| jeffkim1972 wrote: |
| Batman Begins was great, but Batman really has no superpowers so your imagination is sort of limited. |
Actually, thats what makes Batman the best. His superpower is his intellect. I think superpowers are lame. One of the characters that has superpowers that I do like is Wolverine, but his are really subtle. I think Superman has got to be the lamest hero ever invented. He has almost every superpower you can think of and that makes the whole premise idiotic. Batman is the thinking man's superhero. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 3:14 am Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| jeffkim1972 wrote: |
| Batman Begins was great, but Batman really has no superpowers so your imagination is sort of limited. |
Actually, thats what makes Batman the best. His superpower is his intellect. I think superpowers are lame. One of the characters that has superpowers that I do like is Wolverine, but his are really subtle. I think Superman has got to be the lamest hero ever invented. He has almost every superpower you can think of and that makes the whole premise idiotic. |
But in the new movie it's a whole MOUNTAIN of kryptonite!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rp2f2OcCpQ |
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mindmetoo
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 6:30 am Post subject: |
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Ah I saw it tonight. Wasn't too bad. He fights three super baddies, keeps killing them, they keep coming back. That was getting a little stupid. Spiderman 4 needs less singing and dancing.
The movie cost them $300 million to make? Where was the $300 million? I didn't see much of it on the screen. |
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waltjocketty
Joined: 09 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| jeffkim1972 wrote: |
| Batman Begins was great, but Batman really has no superpowers so your imagination is sort of limited. |
Actually, thats what makes Batman the best. His superpower is his intellect. I think superpowers are lame. One of the characters that has superpowers that I do like is Wolverine, but his are really subtle. I think Superman has got to be the lamest hero ever invented. He has almost every superpower you can think of and that makes the whole premise idiotic. Batman is the thinking man's superhero. |
Batman's superpower is NOT his intellect. His father was really rich and Batman has cool toys. His cool toys are his "superpower," if you want to give him a superpower. He doesn't have a superpower, though, and isn't nearly as cool as Spiderman. Spiderman 3 was true to the original story and was pretty well done, aside from the fact that we had to watch tobey maguire try to act the entire time. The Batman movies are better, but there is no argument to be made that Batman is a better character than Spiderman. |
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Maserial
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 6:59 am Post subject: |
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| waltjocketty wrote: |
Batman's superpower is NOT his intellect. His father was really rich and Batman has cool toys. His cool toys are his "superpower," if you want to give him a superpower. He doesn't have a superpower, though, and isn't nearly as cool as Spiderman. Spiderman 3 was true to the original story and was pretty well done, aside from the fact that we had to watch tobey maguire try to act the entire time. The Batman movies are better, but there is no argument to be made that Batman is a better character than Spiderman. |
To which 'original story' are you referring? (Not the comics, I presume.) |
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waltjocketty
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| well, since the comic book developed over a few decades and this movie only had a couple hours, of course it was different, but I felt like Raimi did a good job of keeping the pieces in place without dealing with the whole Secret Wars saga, etc. If they could spend time on Secret Wars, then they could explain the suit more and get into the sci-fi character of Venom a little more in-depth, but I think anyone would agree that the movie is better for not trying to cover too much territory. There's already enough storylines going on in it. I understand why he didn't focus on Sandman as much as the books do, since he is essentially immortal, and that's no fun. So, taking these points into consideration, yeah, I think they did a pretty good job of sticking to the story. |
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Maserial
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| waltjocketty wrote: |
| well, since the comic book developed over a few decades and this movie only had a couple hours, of course it was different, but I felt like Raimi did a good job of keeping the pieces in place without dealing with the whole Secret Wars saga, etc. If they could spend time on Secret Wars, then they could explain the suit more and get into the sci-fi character of Venom a little more in-depth, but I think anyone would agree that the movie is better for not trying to cover too much territory. There's already enough storylines going on in it. I understand why he didn't focus on Sandman as much as the books do, since he is essentially immortal, and that's no fun. So, taking these points into consideration, yeah, I think they did a pretty good job of sticking to the story. |
Well, if Spiderman had killed Gwen Stacy, I could agree with you wholeheartedly. |
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ariellowen
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| It is immoral to go to see Spiderman 3. |
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SuperHero
Joined: 10 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| The movie cost them $300 million to make? Where was the $300 million? I didn't see much of it on the screen. |
apparantly it took two years of research to make The Sandman. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| SuperHero wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| The movie cost them $300 million to make? Where was the $300 million? I didn't see much of it on the screen. |
apparantly it took two years of research to make The Sandman. |
Ah yes. I was looking at that thinking "man, that's power of math right there". |
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matthews_world
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 2:14 am Post subject: |
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All I gotta say is I thought is was decent. Topher Grace was pretty good in it as the 'Evil Spidey'. Spiderman series tries to come out looking all rosey and goody-two-shoe due to it's world-wide appeal. Hardly any of the bystanders get killed. I thought they overplayed the uncle's/father's death flashback in this one and might have been too graphic for younger viewers.
The film had 'Mask' elements to it for sure. |
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holiday72
Joined: 05 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 4:08 am Post subject: Spidey |
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Saw it in 3-D, loved it. The sandman was really cool.
Yeah some parts are kinda silly, but hey it's a comic and it's for the whole family.
The Spiderman series has been very good, only second to the X-men for superhero movies. |
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