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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:06 am    Post subject: Ron Paul Reply with quote

The most important libertarian candidate, Ron Paul, did very well at the debate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hfa7vT02lA

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Can Ron Paul Win?

On Monday morning March 12, Dr. Ron Paul, member of the House of Representatives from Texas, and no stranger to readers of this website, announced on C-SPAN that he will seek the Republican nomination for President. Now that he has moved from an "exploratory" candidacy to being a bona fide candidate, what are Rep. Paul�s chances of winning the GOP nomination?

I have known Ron for about 25 years. The last time I saw him was in mid-2004 when he spoke at a fundraiser for Rep. Scott Garrett in New Jersey. Scott was elected to Congress in 2002 and is a member of Ron�s Liberty Study Committee. During the question and answer period I stated that a Paul-Garrett ticket in 2008 would energize conservative Republicans and libertarians. Ron smiled and said, if I remember correctly, that a presidential run would be very unlikely. Well, here we are in 2007, and a Ron Paul presidential candidacy is a reality.

Ron and I first met at a 1982 monetary conference in Washington, DC. Two years later he invited me with other newsletter writers to tour the Federal Reserve, the U.S. Treasury and the Securities and Exchange Commission. In a Paul presidency, the downsizing of government would begin in earnest, two of the three institutions we toured nearly a quarter of century ago would be abolished, and the U.S. Treasury would probably be responsible for maintaining the integrity of a gold-backed dollar. In short, in a Paul presidency, Washington, DC would be less populated, the budget would shrink substantially, taxes would decline markedly, the dollar would be stronger and no American troops would be policing the world.

Soon after Ron announced his candidacy on C-SPAN, Republican Senator Chuck Hagel held a new conference in his home state of Nebraska to inform the press that he will not be a candidate for president at this time. In another development over the weekend, Fred Thompson, former U.S. senator from Tennessee and television actor, announced that he may seek the GOP nomination for president. On Monday evening I had the opportunity to view some of the news programs, and the political segments were about the possible candidacies of both Hagel and Thompson, while Ron Paul�s candidacy was ignored. Moreover, on Fox News Morton Kondracke commented on Senator Hagel�s announcement and said there is no anti-war candidate in the GOP field.

Clearly, the establishment media�s virtually blackout of Ron Paul�s candidacy is a magnificent case study in: media incompetence? bias? laziness? All of the above?

No matter how the media treat Ron in the months ahead, by this time next year both the Republican and Democrat presidential nominees should be all but selected, because so many primaries will be held next February and March. Thus, whoever raises substantial funds soon and has a message that resonates with voters for the next 12 months will be the overwhelming favorites to win their respective party�s nomination.

As of now, Dr. Paul has much in common with another (physician) presidential candidate, Howard Dean, who used the Internet so effectively in 2004 that the Democratic establishment sandbagged his campaign, because the Democrat bosses did not want to have, in their view, another McGovern (anti-war) candidacy. Ironically, Dean is one of the country�s leading hawks, when it comes to Iran.

Currently, the Internet is abuzz about Ron Paul. As the year unfolds, if more and more young Republicans people gravitate toward the Paul campaign just as young Democrats did for Dean in 2004, the GOP establishment will be apoplectic.

For Ron to become one of the "top tier" GOP candidates he has to have one quality that he does not have now � a media-anointed celebrity status. Currently, the top tier candidates are "celebrities" � Rudy, McCain, Romney, and Newt (even though he has not announced his candidacy). Ron can become a top tier candidate and a serious contender for the nomination if he can raise more funds than his own advisors, I suspect, think is possible by December 31, 2007.

According to many pundits, each of the leading candidates in both parties could raise as much as $100 million by the time the primaries are over. So, for the media to characterize anyone a top tier candidate throughout the year, he or she should be on track to raise at least $50 million or more. Could any of the presidential candidates that are currently in the back of the pack raise anywhere near that daunting amount?

If $50 million is the minimum that a candidate will have to raise to be taken seriously by the media, then every lesser-known candidate needs 50,000 individuals to make an average contribution of $1,000 to give him a $50 million war chest. (The maximum individual contribution is $2,300 per primary and general election.)

Ron�s political base is fiscal conservatives, anti-tax citizens, anti-war Republicans, Democrats and Independents, constitutionalists, hard-money advocates, small business owners, civil libertarians, anti-universal healthcare physicians, pro-lifers, parents who home school, and anyone else who considers himself a real patriot. In other words, if Ron�s substantial base provides him with volunteers, contributions and votes, he would be a very competitive candidate.

In the final analysis, about 50,000 to 100.000 Americans could determine the next presidential nominees of both parties. In the GOP presidential primary, if Ron Paul, Sam Brownback, Duncan Hunter, Tommy Thompson, or any other lesser known candidate excites GOP voters for the next 12 months, then Rudy, McCain and Romney will prove that in a marathon it is not who leads the pack that counts but who is the turtle in the race.

March 14, 2007

Murray Sabrin, Ph.D. [send him mail], is professor of finance in the Anisfield School of Business, Ramapo College of New Jersey, where he is executive director of the Center for Business and Public Policy. He is the author of Tax Free 2000: The Rebirth of American Liberty.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/sabrin5.html
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought I saw this topic with some actual replies in it?

Some kind of backwards DeJeView thing goin' on here.

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riverboy



Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really don't think the press will give the guy a fair shake. He will, as most candidates do, make a minor slip and the press will be all over him.
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gang ah jee



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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most important libertarian candidate? How many more libertarian candidates are there?

But yeah. I don't agree with a lot of Paul's policies, but I respect him the most of any of the Republican candidates. I also respect his type of conservatism a lot more than whatever it is that's currently popular in the GOP. I hope he does well and gets a lot more media attention.
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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gang ah jee wrote:
The most important libertarian candidate? How many more libertarian candidates are there?


There is a libertarian party.
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gang ah jee



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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BJWD wrote:
gang ah jee wrote:
The most important libertarian candidate? How many more libertarian candidates are there?


There is a libertarian party.

Ah, true. I was getting a bit carried away with the whole two party-state thing.
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riverboy



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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ah, true. I was getting a bit carried away with the whole two party-state thing.


lol
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hogwonguy1979



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He has some interesting views and hes very popular in his district in Texas despite how the GOP in Texas has tried to kill his district. He was the one Republican who was targeted when that whole redistricting thing went down a couple of years ago.

his district is in central texas so he gets some of the Austin hippie vote
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bgreenster



Joined: 06 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2007 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't fully agree with some of his ideas, but he's definitely one of the best guys out there. there isn't a single other candidate that i would truly like to see in the white house. sadly, i honestly don't believe that ron paul could get elected, but it would be amazing if that did happen. the republican party needs someone revolutionary like him to pull them out of this homogenous moral abyss. he was the only one willing to give outright opinions in the debate, and i don't see the others being able to help rise above the disaster that is the current conservatively-led presidency. unfortunately, it seems to be leaning more towards a general giveaway to the liberals, with the real election being this upcoming democrat primary.

and yes, he's definitely the best "libertarian" candidate. the only person more unrealistic/ridiculous than mcmanigal (the current lib candidate) was 2004's lib party candidate, badnarik.
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YWMyMTBjOTMzOWY5NmIyYTRjNjAzNWYwY2NiYTVmNTg=

edit: Ignore NRO's commentary and just watch the video.
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Harpeau



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Ron Paul. I have a few differences from him and his "pro-life" stance, but all in all I pretty well agree with him bang on! I wish we had a guy like him running up in Canada. I really hope he wins the presidency.
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