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Richard Krainium
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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 Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: Dog Torture: Myth or Fact? |
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I've seen the dog meat markets. I've seen the dog meat restaurants. I've never seen the torture so many on this site claim.
I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but the logistics of slaughtering dogs in this manner doesn't make sense. At least the butchers at Moran Market don't slaughter that way.
Anyways, the burden of proof should be on the accusers, right? Saying you hear dogs howling in the countryside proves torture or saying I heard it from my father-in-law, whose cousin owns dogs, ect...just doesn't cut it.
As been pointed out many times already, meat processing is an ugly business, but where is the proof that large scale torture of dogs happens? |
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Natalie
Joined: 16 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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how about seeing a dog in the final stagse of being burnt alive?
Saw that in the countryside down south, made me vomit.
But, the way they LIVE is torture, not just the way they die. Eating each other, losing their minds, being forced to eat shit and rotten food, little water, tied to their cages on 30cm chains for their entire lives... |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I was under the impression that the "beat 'n' heat" method was a bit old-school. At Moran Market, I saw a butcher using electrocution - presumably because it is quicker and easier. This seemed about as humane a method as any for slaughtering livestock. |
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venus
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Thie idea is to cause a painful, drawn out death in order to cause a flood of adrenalin through the animals muscles to make the meat 'more tender.' |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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MANDRL
Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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venus
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Apparently before the Korean war and democratic elections, Koreans didn't treat each other much better than that from what I've read.... Definately they were still in the stages that Europe was during the middle ages at that time... |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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The second link:
Are those the "eaten" dogs? Cause man, they really look a lot like jindos.
first links: fucking disturrrrrbing  |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| venus wrote: |
| Thie idea is to cause a painful, drawn out death in order to cause a flood of adrenalin through the animals muscles to make the meat 'more tender.' |
And make it more of a 'stamina' food.
My Korean adult students told me it. My Korean friends and a Korean coworker have confirmed it.
It's not just a bunch of ESL waygooks on Dave's saying it. We say it because Koreans tell us! |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Natalie wrote: |
But, the way they LIVE is torture, not just the way they die. Eating each other, losing their minds, being forced to eat *beep* and rotten food, little water, tied to their cages on 30cm chains for their entire lives... |
Would not most animals raised for consumption fall into this? |
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rocklee
Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Hope that answers all your questions.
I only made it to the second picture. |
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tareze
Joined: 13 Mar 2005
Location: north or south of a river
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Natalie wrote: |
But, the way they LIVE is torture, not just the way they die. Eating each other, losing their minds, being forced to eat *beep* and rotten food, little water, tied to their cages on 30cm chains for their entire lives... |
Would not most animals raised for consumption fall into this? |
Actually...just saw this new BBC food show Cooking in the Danger Zone and they were in South Korea exploring this whole dog thing...
The guy was pretty shocked that they had even let him onto the dog farm to see the conditions were so bad. There was a highlight of the electrocution death method as well. Then he drives down the road and sees a cow farm so he pops in to see cows chilling in a big barn with fans and classical music looking pretty unperturbed. It was definetly a strange disparity. |
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Doogie
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Hwaseong City
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| rocklee wrote: |
Hope that answers all your questions.
I only made it to the second picture. |
Unfortunately, I made it through all the pictures. I don't know how they can do it. As another poster said, it's not just how they kill them but it's also about how their lives are sheer misery before they torture them to death. Personally, I've never seen the killing (torture) process but my school is in a relatively rural area and I have seen dogs living in nightmare conditions. I've seen big dogs stuffed into 4 foot cages so they can't even move. I've also seen dogs tied to the same 2 foot chain "all the time". In both cases, you can honestly see that the dogs muscles have atrophied due to lack of mobility and exercise. Back in my country (Canada) the SPCA or the Humane Society would be all over these guys in a nano-second. |
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Pak Yu Man
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Those are nice pics on the blogs...but they don't show anyone beating dogs. Hens that produce eggs live in a cage about the size if it's body. It's shiatty living conditions, but it's like that way for any food animal. |
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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| Pak Yu Man wrote: |
| Those are nice pics on the blogs...but they don't show anyone beating dogs. Hens that produce eggs live in a cage about the size if it's body. It's shiatty living conditions, but it's like that way for any food animal. |
http://blogfiles15.naver.net/data13/2006/3/19/142/tkfkd4858_23616682-mulinalara.jpg
That picture on the left sure looks like someone in the process of beating a dog...
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