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Gopher
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 Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:27 pm Post subject: Japan Has "Unwanted-Baby" Drop Boxes...? |
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TOKYO, Japan (AP) -- A Japanese drop box for unwanted babies triggered a wave of nationwide soul searching Wednesday, a day after it was discovered a preschooler -- and not an infant -- had been dumped there by his father on its first day of operation.
Nationally circulated newspapers warned that the anonymous drop-off, known as "Stork's Cradle," is open for abuse and could traumatize youngsters. They also condemned the father, saying his action could spur copycats.
The drop-off was opened last Thursday by the Catholic-run Jikei Hospital in the southern city of Kumamoto to discourage abortions and the abandonment of children in unsafe public places. The same day, a boy believed to be 3 was found inside.
The boy, who was in good health, reportedly said he was dropped off by his father, who was seen holding the youngster's hand as they approached the hospital. They apparently rode Japan's bullet train to Kumamoto, but it was unclear where they lived.
"I came with Daddy," the boy was quoted as saying by the Mainichi newspaper.
The find triggered a wave of outrage among political leaders on Tuesday, with Prime Minister Shinzo Abe saying "Anonymously throwing out a child is unacceptable..." |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Ahhh Japan..... |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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We should all get together and adopt one. He/she could be our mascot.
We could take turns caring for the baby, using it as a tangible, in their face example of the moral superiority of ESLers and the Western world over Asian backwardness. |
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venus
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="caniff"]We should all get together and adopt one. He/she could be our mascot.
We could take turns caring for the baby, using it as a tangible, in their face example of the moral superiority of ESLers and the Western world over Asian backwardness.[/quote]
I'll be demonstrating the same moral superiority today in my most unruly class by calling the bad students embarrasing names when my co-teacher isn't looking to shame them in front of their friends. It's the only thing that shuts the f*ckers up.
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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We should all get together and adopt one. He/she could be our mascot.
We could take turns caring for the baby, using it as a tangible, in their face example of the moral superiority of ESLers and the Western world over Asian backwardness.[/quote]
I'll be demonstrating the same moral superiority today in my most unruly class by calling the bad students embarrasing names when my co-teacher isn't looking to shame them in front of their friends. It's the only thing that shuts the f*ckers up.
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It would be even better, though, if you had an abandoned Asian baby to wave around while you denigrated them.
(I am going to hell). |
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Japan Has "Unwanted-Baby" Drop Boxes...? |
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TOKYO, Japan (AP) -- A Japanese drop box for unwanted babies triggered a wave of nationwide soul searching Wednesday, a day after it was discovered a preschooler -- and not an infant -- had been dumped there by his father on its first day of operation.
Nationally circulated newspapers warned that the anonymous drop-off, known as "Stork's Cradle," is open for abuse and could traumatize youngsters. They also condemned the father, saying his action could spur copycats.
The drop-off was opened last Thursday by the Catholic-run Jikei Hospital in the southern city of Kumamoto to discourage abortions and the abandonment of children in unsafe public places. The same day, a boy believed to be 3 was found inside.
The boy, who was in good health, reportedly said he was dropped off by his father, who was seen holding the youngster's hand as they approached the hospital. They apparently rode Japan's bullet train to Kumamoto, but it was unclear where they lived.
"I came with Daddy," the boy was quoted as saying by the Mainichi newspaper.
The find triggered a wave of outrage among political leaders on Tuesday, with Prime Minister Shinzo Abe saying "Anonymously throwing out a child is unacceptable..." |
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Cool........
People don't think about the big picture usually. I still think the kid should be taken away from that idiot he should be castrated then thrown in jail.
Their should be licencing system to have kids.. |
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cosmo
Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject: yes |
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| It sounds an awful lot like a less-sensitive orphanage. Kind of like orphanages that exist all over the world. |
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TiGrBaLm
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:46 pm Post subject: Re: yes |
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| It sounds an awful lot like a less-sensitive orphanage. Kind of like orphanages that exist all over the world. |
It's not an orphanage. It's a way for children to be abandoned in a good environment. Love it or hate it, it's much better than being left in a dumpster or garbage can (which happened at my childhood playground). And it's not a new invention....
For those with no time to click on the link provided earlier
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| This kind of arrangement was common in mediaeval times and in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, when the device was known as a foundling wheel. Foundling wheels were taken out of use in the late 1800s but a modern form, the baby hatch, began to be introduced again from 1996 and since 2000 has come into use in many countries, notably in Germany where there are around 80 hatches today. |
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Ilsanman
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: yes |
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I read the article. Despite some differences, it is very similar to an orphanage.
And the fact that these kids are not orphans doesn't matter. Lots of orphanages have children in them that have parents, but were discarded by them.
I don't like this idea much, but it's better than abortion. Especially in a country where the birth rate is dangerously low. As long as the children are being taken care of humanely, and they have a chance to be adopted, it's better than death.
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
| It sounds an awful lot like a less-sensitive orphanage. Kind of like orphanages that exist all over the world. |
It's not an orphanage. It's a way for children to be abandoned in a good environment. Love it or hate it, it's much better than being left in a dumpster or garbage can (which happened at my childhood playground). And it's not a new invention....
For those with no time to click on the link provided earlier
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| This kind of arrangement was common in mediaeval times and in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, when the device was known as a foundling wheel. Foundling wheels were taken out of use in the late 1800s but a modern form, the baby hatch, began to be introduced again from 1996 and since 2000 has come into use in many countries, notably in Germany where there are around 80 hatches today. |
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: yes |
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
I read the article. Despite some differences, it is very similar to an orphanage.
And the fact that these kids are not orphans doesn't matter. Lots of orphanages have children in them that have parents, but were discarded by them.
I don't like this idea much, but it's better than abortion. Especially in a country where the birth rate is dangerously low. As long as the children are being taken care of humanely, and they have a chance to be adopted, it's better than death.
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
| It sounds an awful lot like a less-sensitive orphanage. Kind of like orphanages that exist all over the world. |
It's not an orphanage. It's a way for children to be abandoned in a good environment. Love it or hate it, it's much better than being left in a dumpster or garbage can (which happened at my childhood playground). And it's not a new invention....
For those with no time to click on the link provided earlier
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| This kind of arrangement was common in mediaeval times and in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, when the device was known as a foundling wheel. Foundling wheels were taken out of use in the late 1800s but a modern form, the baby hatch, began to be introduced again from 1996 and since 2000 has come into use in many countries, notably in Germany where there are around 80 hatches today. |
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I'm puzzled by what is similar to an orphanage. Is it the act of abandoning the baby or what happens after the child is abandoned that is similar?
And I don't understand the idea of a less sensitive orphanage. The baby hatch was to be used for newborns and infants. What the father did with his son was insensitive. If a newborn or infant was abandoned, he or she fortunately wouldn't really know, now would they? |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:15 am Post subject: |
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I love it.
Were this a thread about an American father who had abandoned his five-year-old son at "an unwanted-baby drop box," the same posters who have come out to defend Japan's honor would be here hurling allegations and insults against "American culture" for allowing such an evil thing... |
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:42 am Post subject: |
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I love it.
Were this a thread about an American father who had abandoned his five-year-old son at "an unwanted-baby drop box," the same posters who have come out to defend Japan's honor would be here hurling allegations and insults against "American culture" for allowing such an evil thing... |
I don't think anyone is defending this asshole.... |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:18 am Post subject: Re: yes |
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In some places in the world, abandoning the baby is what makes the child end up in an orphanage. Also what happens after is similar. It's the state taking care of children that would otherwise become street urchins and probably die.
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| Ilsanman wrote: |
I read the article. Despite some differences, it is very similar to an orphanage.
And the fact that these kids are not orphans doesn't matter. Lots of orphanages have children in them that have parents, but were discarded by them.
I don't like this idea much, but it's better than abortion. Especially in a country where the birth rate is dangerously low. As long as the children are being taken care of humanely, and they have a chance to be adopted, it's better than death.
| Alyallen wrote: |
| Ilsanman wrote: |
| It sounds an awful lot like a less-sensitive orphanage. Kind of like orphanages that exist all over the world. |
It's not an orphanage. It's a way for children to be abandoned in a good environment. Love it or hate it, it's much better than being left in a dumpster or garbage can (which happened at my childhood playground). And it's not a new invention....
For those with no time to click on the link provided earlier
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| This kind of arrangement was common in mediaeval times and in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, when the device was known as a foundling wheel. Foundling wheels were taken out of use in the late 1800s but a modern form, the baby hatch, began to be introduced again from 1996 and since 2000 has come into use in many countries, notably in Germany where there are around 80 hatches today. |
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I'm puzzled by what is similar to an orphanage. Is it the act of abandoning the baby or what happens after the child is abandoned that is similar?
And I don't understand the idea of a less sensitive orphanage. The baby hatch was to be used for newborns and infants. What the father did with his son was insensitive. If a newborn or infant was abandoned, he or she fortunately wouldn't really know, now would they? |
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