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		antoniothegreat
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:25 pm    Post subject: do students really think i am that stupid? | 
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				I have a policy at my middle school that kids cannot use cell phones in my class. I made the penalty strict, since last year I felt I had too many kids using them, so the penalty this year is i take the phone for a month. 
 
 
to avoid any issues of "teacher i wasnt using it." i told them i will take if i SEE it, not if they are using it. i realize some kids have dictionaries, so if they leave the phone on the desk in open view with the dictionary part open, that is okay. 
 
 
today i see a girl with the phone under the desk, i wait a few seconds to make sure she is typing on it, which she is. i go over to her to get it and she quickly closes and hides it. i take it and she says "english dictionary, english dictionary!" so i ask her what word she was looking up. she thinks for about three seconds, then looks at the board, and says "E, A, T"
 
 
Does she really think that I would believe a third grade student in middle school would not know what "eat" means?  wow...
 
 
anyways, i have her phone for a month. | 
			 
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		ED209
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Don't forget to call all your friends back home and tell them the story   | 
			 
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		antoniothegreat
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:44 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  Don't forget to call all your friends back home and tell them the story   | 
	 
 
 
 
that is the penalty if they refuse to give me the phone. but she gave it up quick. | 
			 
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		YoshaMazov
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:45 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| That kind of stuff seems to happen to me all the time. I can't tell if the students think I'm a complete dullard, or if they're just plain stupid. | 
			 
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		mrsquirrel
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:46 pm    Post subject:  | 
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		spliff
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 10:46 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Yeah, bro...that's a real knee-slapper.
 
Yeah, bro...that's a real knee-slapper.
 
 
 
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	  anyways, i have her phone for a month.
 
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The Ss must love you...   | 
			 
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		Yu_Bum_suk
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| I make them write 30 lines or re-write the text dialogue for a first offence (and keep it for a day). I do many cruel things to students but taking a phone away for a month is too much even for me. | 
			 
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		babtangee
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 11:13 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| A month for a first offense? Heavy. Too bad if the thing malfunctions while in your possession. You gonna replace it? | 
			 
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		antoniothegreat
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 11:13 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				that's what most of the other teachers at my school do, one month, so i am not being too extreme. but it has worked, as this is only the second phone i have seen all year. last year i would see two phones being used per class.
 
 
i think if i was back home i wouldnt do that, take a phone for a month, but we are in korea, so i use their rules. it's not like i am beating them or anything. | 
			 
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		spliff
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	   it's not like i am beating them or anything.
 
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    Then...why the hell aren't you?    | 
			 
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		poet13
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 1:40 am    Post subject:  | 
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				I have a new punishment.
 
Pushups.  I hand them out fairly freely.  Ist offense in a class = 10.  2nd = 20.  3rd = 30.  I had a boy get to 30 yesterday.  I have discovered that I have a lot of kids who cannot do even 1 proper pushup.  Then again, I had a boy this morning.  I told him to give me ten pushups.  He didn't hear the ten.  So he got down at the back of the classroom and started doing pushups.  REAL pushups.  I forgot about him.  Apparently he got to about 80 before I realized he wasn't in his chair.     Good kid though.  The others razzed him about not listening when I said ten, and he had a good laugh about it. | 
			 
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		Young FRANKenstein
 
  
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				 Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 3:27 am    Post subject:  | 
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	  | I can't tell if the students think I'm a complete dullard, or if they're just plain stupid. | 
	 
 
 
By the number of times my uni students have cut and pasted perfect English from a webpage or copied word for word from the textbook we are using, they obviously think I'm an idiot. And they look at me with genuine confusion upon seeing the big red ZERO on their paper (with offending printed URL underneath) | 
			 
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		I-am-me
 
  
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				 Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 8:49 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| Yes, pushups is my favorite punishment.  I even got the korean teachers away from beating the kids with plastic rods using that method.  Another one is having them hold a chair above their heads. | 
			 
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		polonius
 
  
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				 Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  | Yes, pushups is my favorite punishment.  I even got the korean teachers away from beating the kids with plastic rods using that method.  Another one is having them hold a chair above their heads. | 
	 
 
 
 
I can understand push-ups, although wouldn't dish it out personally, but to make a student hold a chair over their head. How old are the students? Are you standing right next to them to make sure that once their arms give out, you will catch the chair and stop it from falling on their head? I have seen this happen.
 
 
And for the cell phone abuse, why not just make it a rule that Mom has to come pick up the phone for the student. If you waste mom's time, I am sure she will be none to pleased at her daughter. | 
			 
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		Yu_Bum_suk
 
  
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				 Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject:  | 
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	  that's what most of the other teachers at my school do, one month, so i am not being too extreme. but it has worked, as this is only the second phone i have seen all year. last year i would see two phones being used per class.
 
 
i think if i was back home i wouldnt do that, take a phone for a month, but we are in korea, so i use their rules. it's not like i am beating them or anything. | 
	 
 
 
 
Actually they'd probably rather have a beating. 
 
 
I find that cracking down but then being a bit more lenient than most KTs would be produces a much better result in the end. The other day after school one of my middle schoolers spotted me outside and came charging across the soccer pitch, clutching in her hand a piece of paper (on which I'd made her re-write a page from the textbook several times) that you'd think the fate of the free world depended on, stopping to regain her breath and then holding out both hands to present it to me. I gave her phone back, she bowed, and then as I was leaving she made a heart above her head with her hands and shouted 'Teachuh I love you!'. It probably won't guarantee that I'll never see her phone again as much as taking it away for a month would, but odds are good she won't play with it in my class again and she'll be happy to see me next week, instead of sulking for the rest of the year whenever I'm around. | 
			 
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